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  •  Not stupid, something else (33+ / 0-)

    I have lots and lots of rightwing friends due to my rural avocations, and they are not stupid at all, except about politics, so it has to be another reason. Studies Have Shown that there is no significant difference in basic intelligence between right and left wing proponents. So can we stop with the 'they are so stupid' reiterations. You're all smart, think of some other thing to say.

    Some things my rw friends tend to be: defensive and insular. Emphasis on the insular. I know quite a few ranchers suffering miserably in the continuing drought in the middle of the continent who firmly believe climate change is a hoax -- because everyone around them and every media outlet and every tee shirt and bumper sticker they ever come in contact with says it is. How many people do you know who would resolutely believe something entirely different than all their most respected mentors and friends and the very television itself? NO ONE wants to be the isolated shunned mocked weirdo. I don't care where on any spectrum you land.

    One of the less-discussed political phenomena of the modern era is mobility. Those who couldn't believe the same things that their parents believed moved somewhere more congenial as soon as they could. I live in coastal California where the population is composed mostly of such people -- I married one. The people who remained in Kansas or wherever redoubled their suspicions of the Big City Liberals who don't understand them. And they are right to feel that way.

    I am a liberal progressive environmentalist and haven't wavered from that stance since I was fifteen years old which was somewhere around the dawn of the age of mammals. Not despite but because of those beliefs, I find demonizing and ridiculing those who believe differently to be counterproductive, to use a neutral term.  

    •  Everyone wants to fit in (20+ / 0-)

      Which is why at work I feel isolated. The majority of my coworkers are 'conservative' and love to spout Drudge and Fox talking points.  What I did find is that one day I had an opening with the teaparty guy in the office.  He was talking about 'drill baby, drill' and I decided to give him some information.  I explained how the cost of getting oil out of the ground was the driving factor on when a lease would be used.  I then told him that leases were bought all the time for oil and gas and then not used because the price did not justify the cost of getting it out of the ground.  We have many examples here since we are surrounded by gas wells that 'oddly' go slack when the price of gas falls.  He seemed intrigued by my information and I did not hear him talk about the price of gas or supposed lack of drilling even though he is a very hard right winger.  Since what I told him was not tied to either party, he accepted it as fact.

      Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul in this world--and never will. Mark Twain

      by whoknu on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 07:48:54 AM PST

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      •  Deep down he is still Drill Baby Drill.... (1+ / 0-)
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        They will be doubling down on the trickle-down too, it's all they've got.

        "Republicans are the party that says that government doesn't work, then they get elected and prove it."-- PJ O'Rourke

        by nocynicism on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 09:00:23 AM PST

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        •  That comment puts the lie to your user name ;) (1+ / 0-)
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          Pretty cynical remark.

          "...you can’t find any oxygen from outside the aircraft to get in the aircraft, because the windows don’t open. I don’t know why they don’t do that. It’s a real problem." Mitt Romney

          by Catte Nappe on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 09:10:51 AM PST

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          •  Hey I "was" terribly cynical... (1+ / 0-)
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            During Obama's primary in 08 election he asked us to put our cynicism aside, I am trying.  Thus my screen name.  I was sure that this country was not ready to elect a blah President.  They did twice.  But letting him govern is another thing.  In fact making it impossible for a Democrat to govern is all part of their plan for a permanent majority.  The dirty bastardos.

            "Republicans are the party that says that government doesn't work, then they get elected and prove it."-- PJ O'Rourke

            by nocynicism on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 11:24:08 AM PST

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    •  Yeah and everybody but the "Moochers" believe... (0+ / 0-)

      what they believe.  

      "Republicans are the party that says that government doesn't work, then they get elected and prove it."-- PJ O'Rourke

      by nocynicism on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 09:01:56 AM PST

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