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  •  In the end taxes on the rich will go up (11+ / 0-)

    and the president will cut a deal that doesn't impact safety net benefits for the 98%.  It will be brilliant in that it will remove scare tactics over the safety net as a viable republican strategy for decades.  The handful of folks around here who were dead wrong about the president's 1st term strategies that are paying off huge right now will freak out and be wrong about the safety net strengthening adjustments too.  Regardless, the result will be that the GOP is without any talking points or real success for a long time to come as the safety net remains in tact and a new progressive era in American begins.

    Picture a bright blue ball just spinnin' spinnin' free. It's dizzy with possibility.

    by lockewasright on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:14:05 AM PST

    •  Dear Pollyanna, (0+ / 0-)

      Would that you are right.  And maybe you are.  Obama wants the House to pass the Senate's tax bill.  The consequence of raising taxes on the top 2% is a stick (and sticking point) for Republicans.  At the same time, Obama is holding a big, fat carrot (future cuts in entitlement spending, maybe) as an incentive to the GOP for passing middle class tax cuts NOW.  The carrot is leverage.  If Obama takes entitlements off the table, Republicans have less incentive to act before year's end.  Of course, what happens in the new year is up for grabs.

      Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

      by winsock on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:24:59 AM PST

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      •  Yes, I am a Pollyanna for not having been a (4+ / 0-)

        drooling moron about the president's superior pragmatism in his first term.  That makes a lot of sense.

        The fact is the GOP will have no choice but to take the blame on Jan 1st and still watch the taxes on the rich go up and then vote to give new breaks to the middle class or save face by getting entitlement reforms in a deal.  They will have to settle for reforms that do nothing to reduce benefits for most americans and do so on the president's terms or it's back to option one.

        Having not been dead wrong so far, I am not the one who's comprehension failure in the first term should give them pause now.

        Picture a bright blue ball just spinnin' spinnin' free. It's dizzy with possibility.

        by lockewasright on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 08:32:04 AM PST

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        •  Wash, rinse, repeat (2+ / 0-)
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          As I said, I hope you're right.  The worry for most is this bit:

          ...save face by getting entitlement reforms in a deal.  They will have to settle for reforms that do nothing to reduce benefits for most Americans....
          Raising the Medicare eligibility age?  More aggressive means-testing?  What?  What are we proposing?

          Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

          by winsock on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 09:14:56 AM PST

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          •  We're probably gonna have to wait and see. (4+ / 0-)

            It won't be SS and it won't be on the backs of the middle class or working poor.  It will be more progress in undoing the shifting of all of the wealth in the country to the top.  The last 30 or so years need reversed if we're to have a sustainable economy.  The big picture is to put a premium on greed in the form of a feedback loop to the middle class so that there is enough expendable income to keep demand high and unemployment low (resulting in wages no longer stagnating).

            Picture a bright blue ball just spinnin' spinnin' free. It's dizzy with possibility.

            by lockewasright on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 10:34:46 AM PST

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            •  Indeed (0+ / 0-)

              The lopsided balance of wealth is a hard nut to crack as there are so many moving parts to the economy.  It has taken decades to reach the current imbalance and it will perhaps take decades to rebalance.  But I think we can at least begin moving in the right direction.

              Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

              by winsock on Sat Dec 08, 2012 at 10:57:56 AM PST

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