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  •  I have been politically engaged and (4+ / 0-)

    to varying degrees militant for over 40 years. I may have even given the speech you are giving here to others over the years. I have nothing but sympathy for your position.

    However, this is a partisan political web site, and increasingly our worst enemies - the ones who potentiate and enable our explicit enemies - are those we purport to be on "our side". That essential bad faith, IMO, makes it very difficult for me to discern an electoral path forward for now.

    I see a future of mounting illegal and destructive resistance because other avenues of resistance are being closed, and the ruling elite - even self-described liberals - are utterly disconnected from reality. This situation is not historically unprecedented. A few enlightened 1%ers pulled us back from the brink 80 years ago. That probably would not have been possible without the pervasive fear among the Villagers of imminent violence and insurrection.

    I agree with the question you pose in the diary. In that this is a political web site... When can we expect an answer from the pols to whom we contribute so much money and effort? Why aren't they talking about this? At least a couple of them? And one of them can even be Bernie Sanders!

    Believe me... no one these days is more aware of my profound lacks and deficiencies than am I. I will keep my pessimism to myself in future, but it's based on much more than passing, reactive emotion.



    Those who do not move, do not notice their chains. Rosa Luxemburg

    by chuckvw on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 11:52:54 AM PST

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    •  Politics reflects the people, always. (2+ / 0-)
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      Even when it does not serve the people, we always get the government we deserve, sooner or later.  This is what we've deserved, so far, because we inherited a lot and forgot how it was made while those who were against it never stopped chipping away.

      In Roviet Union, money spends YOU!

      by Troubadour on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 12:16:32 PM PST

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      •  This isn't the whole story for me (1+ / 0-)
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        Government/politics also, maybe predominantly, reflects class and economic realities over which "we" have little control. Capitalist social democracy was designed to somewhat mitigate and mediate the harsher aspects of untrammeled profit reaping.

        Our lords and masters now deem that mitigation and mediation (including social spending and environmental protection) a waste of their vast unearned wealth. How do we confront that? I don't know, but it does bear some thought.

        They aren't chipping. They've been wielding axes since the 80s. Instead of resisting, the Democrats have largely tried to play both ends against the illusory middle.



        Those who do not move, do not notice their chains. Rosa Luxemburg

        by chuckvw on Sun Dec 09, 2012 at 02:41:25 PM PST

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      •  this ... (0+ / 0-)
        This is what we've deserved, so far, because we inherited a lot and forgot how it was made while those who were against it never stopped chipping away.
                        applies to so many struggles we seem to be having these days
        ...wish i could rec your comment over and over

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