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  •  ROTFL!! (7+ / 0-)
    I'm not comfortable with a bunch of people firing into a darkened and chaotic environment.
    Believe it or not, I'm not either.. NO NO I'm not kidding---that would really make me, um, uncomfortable.
    Just because Ive been in firefights at night doesn't mean I'm desirous of getting into another, I asure you.

    but follow this closely: we're talking about something no one has any control at all over (other than the mass murderer)

    Lets start with the premise that mass murder is bad---agreed?  So, when youre in the middle of the mass murder you need to do everything in your power to try and stop it!!
    Still agreed? You'll see it clearly  when you get there.

    you don't get the choice of who's going to be there doing what you'll ony be reacting to circumstances as best you can in a melee at might where people are killing each other (ask me how I know this!)

    And youre going to want to have a gun, I
    m REAL sure of that, based on not inconsiderable prior experience of being in deadly melees at night

    Another few people with semi-automatic weapons could have easily made the situation even worse
    Anythings possible in a hypothetical

    Happy just to be alive

    by exlrrp on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 07:15:17 AM PST

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    •  The difference for me (0+ / 0-)

      Well, I guess the difference is that I wouldn't feel comfortable having a gun in that situation.  I've had exactly zero training with a gun.  So trying to make a clean shot amongst that level of chaos seems ridiculous.

      And being that there is absolutely no training involved with getting a gun, I wouldn't want anyone else spraying more bullets into the crowd.

      •  You Should NEVER Be Forced to Have a Gun (4+ / 0-)

        I know of nobody who advocates requiring you to own or carry a firearm.

        There are, however, an awful lot of folks with extensive training and experience with firearms who don't happen to currently wear any uniform who can and do carry a weapon every day without anybody ever being aware of it unless it is needed to prevent death or harm to the bearer or someone within his/her "sphere of influence".

        Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

        by The Baculum King on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 11:46:26 AM PST

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      •  You won't have the choice (1+ / 0-)
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        but if it makes you feel better, I will say I'm against people spraying bullets into a crowd also, put me down on the anti-list for sure. NO NO NO sraying bullets into crowds, folks!! Give peace a chance!

        but here's another hypothetical that could happen: Some rasty-ass old Vietnam vet, who only sstarted carrying a gun when they relaxed the law, and  who also shot his first man in the back when at the tender age of 18 and 8 months, comes up behind the mass murderer, jams a .38 snubnose into the back of the shooters head and blows his brains to hell. Said rastyass old Vietam vet then fires a couple of more warning shots into his head to insure his remaining supine. (this is called "saving lives")
        After wards, the rasty ass old Vietnam Vet basks in the admiring glow  of his equally rasty-ass old Vietnam vet buddies, chortling over a new murder to add to the collection.

        It could happen! I know people like that.

        Happy just to be alive

        by exlrrp on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 04:29:41 PM PST

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      •  There were a number of military personnel.... (2+ / 0-)
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        in that crowd.  As I recall, one or two of them died saving others... because that's all they could do, having been disarmed by fiat.

        Because being armed could only have made things worse.  Right?

        But the fact that you admit you have no training discounts your opinion.  You are welcome to it, of course, but uninformed ignorance carries no weight in real life.

    •  Didn't you get the memo? (1+ / 0-)
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      People fighting back against criminals can only make things worse.

      Except that they can then never come up with a supporting example....

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