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  •  Well that put a spring in my step (26+ / 0-)

    for a Monday morning. Congratulations to all the loving couples of Washington. We'll continue to fight like hell for the rest of us.

    •  and marriage equality good for all! (7+ / 0-)

      It occurs to me while looking at these inspiring pictures that it's not just that we have made marriage equality happen across the gay/straight divide in WA, but also, so many of these couples looking so harmoniously similar to each other underscores how same-sex marriage boosts the notion of equal marriage, as contrasted with a historic, patriarchal form of marriage.

      As a WA straight-married, in a pair of equal partners, I can see that having same-gender people married can help make marriage more intrinsically equal, simply because there is no gender gap on which to apply old marriage stereotypes. To me, this is a good thing, and strengthens modern marriage.

      I can see if I was a fundamentalist or otherwise social conservative with an old-world, patriarchal view, that the weekend's developments might feel like a threat against that sort of old-school marriage. Historically, under American law, women lost civil rights (and even human rights) as a direct result of getting married. Wives were in many legal respects, chattel. Some seek return to a more unequal time, nostalgic for less civil rights or second-class citizen status of women, for whatever imagined reason.

      But I think gay marriage helps boost a modern, realistic, fair and equal model of marriage -- across the board.

      So, extra super yay!

      •  That is a very cogent point. (3+ / 0-)
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        Em, swampyankee, lulusbackintown

        This past weekend I was reading a science-fiction book written and set in the early 80s; it included, as background characters, a gay couple who (despite no legal provision existing for it at the time) considered themselves married.  And what struck me as old-fashioned about it was a passing mention of "Marty and his wife Dave".

        The assumption presumably being -- and it's an assumption I have heard over and over again -- that if two people are married, one of them must be the wife.

        (Though on consideration, it was not clear whether Dave calls Marty his husband or also calls Marty his wife; it strikes me as confusing, either way.)

        And yes -- a same-gender couple in which both spouses are wives, or both husbands, can illustrate beautifully that the old standard spouse roles are malleable customs, not fixed laws of nature.

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