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    You know as well as I that if we went off the cliff on Jan 1, a middle-class tax cut would be passed on Jan 2. And even if it took a few weeks, it would be retroactive.

    Neither party wants middle-class tax rates to go up. They just want to get as much leverage as they can from it.

    matthewborgard.com ~ @MatthewBorgard

    by zegota on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 02:35:32 PM PST

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    •  I'm not so sure Republicans really care about (0+ / 0-)

      middle class tax rates. They're way past pretending they're main objective is serving the very rich. I think they'll see how long they can push it before Obama blinks and agrees to at least some tax cuts for the rich. It won't be back to the Bush rates but I don't think they'll ever support a stand alone tax cut for the middle class.

      Let's not let 2014 be anything like 2010. Republicans only win when we stay home!

      by Tim D M on Mon Dec 10, 2012 at 04:06:26 PM PST

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      •  you could be right, but the r's will pay for it at (0+ / 0-)

        election time.  2014.  2016.  2018, etc.

        •  According to them, the reason they lost (0+ / 0-)

          in 2012 was because they weren't conservative enough so in their minds, they still think total obstruction and ideological purity will be rewarded. Plus, any deal that Obama will accept will be a violation of Norquist's pledge according to Grover.

          Let's not let 2014 be anything like 2010. Republicans only win when we stay home!

          by Tim D M on Tue Dec 11, 2012 at 07:58:20 AM PST

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          •  let them think what they will, then. history will (0+ / 0-)

            prove them wrong.  they will lose.  and lose.  and lose.  until they disappear.

            and no one will regret them doing so.

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