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  •  Amendment isn't likely. (4+ / 0-)
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    second gen, wader, Matt Z, pelagicray

    A big part of the reason most of the progressive initiatives failed this year is because there was a campaign waged against the idea of changing the state constitution.  I can guarantee the same would happen if we tried this.

    •  I think it would be very close, actually. (1+ / 0-)
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      pelagicray

      I supported Prop. 2, but I was leery of its chance of success.  But voters do, I think, realize that they they defeated it in a public debate and their own voices counted; not only are a majority of Michiganders opposed to RTW (a number that will only grow as ill-informed proponents see it doing nothing for their quality-of-life) but they recognize that it was shoved down our throats by a right-wing legislature and a wolf-in-sheep's-clothing governor.

      Not to excuse the past mistakes of Michiganders -- and there have been many -- but I do think people would be more amenable to amendment after the events of the last week.

      It is too bad that it has come to this.

      Also: I'm counting down days to 2014.

      "No one gets to be born a butterfly, not even butterflies." - Santa

      by blueskiesfalling on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 08:43:33 AM PST

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    •  Could be, but another campaign might work now, (1+ / 0-)
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      some for the reasons blueskiesfalling gives in answer.

      What may be needed, and this probably ought to be coordinated with the 2014 campaign, is a counter campaign to the effect the state constitution needs changing to prevent midnight legislation, as this RTW apparently was, and to put redistricting and election management into non-partisan, professional hands.

      Don't know Michigan at all, but this has to wake some people up to be much more concerned about just good government, much less this kind of shenanigans.

      The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

      by pelagicray on Thu Dec 13, 2012 at 04:23:14 PM PST

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