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  •  The president is not OUR... (2+ / 0-)
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    Simplify, shaharazade

    ... Commander in Chief.  He is our President.

    US Constitution, Article 2, Section. 2.

    The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices...,

    Notice it says "WHEN called into the actual Service of the United States."

    Congress is the only body that can vote to go to war (or not), and Congress is the only body that can authorize money (or borrowing thereof) for war, and even that has a constitutional time limit.  We do not have a legal war against any country going on - only an illegal and unconstitutional fight against a little gang of criminals, and that's been going on for a decade now, plus we had an illegal invasion of Iraq and some troops have been pulled back to a nearby country, but have not been brought home to US soil.

    The president does NOT have to be called into actual Service of the United States to serve as Commander in Chief.  Even when he is, he's only CiC of the military forces..., not the civilian population.

    WE do not elect a CiC because the general population is not a military force.

    WE elect electors to vote for a president at the meeting of the electoral college.

    Sorry... little nitpicky, I know, but ever since Dumbya was put into office, the little ratbastage yapped about being CiC, started incorrectly saying we cast our votes for CiC..., and the Media Morons parroted him instead of reading the Constitution to see that a President is only CiC WHEN called into actual service, and is only CiC over the military forces, not the civilian population since we elect a president, not a CiC.  [The Bushista regime f##ked up big time, especially with their loose implications and terminologies incorrectly applied..., and the Fourth Estate didn't call them on it, but dutifully repeated their words like a bleeping tape recorder.  I fear we won't get back to correct terminology in media for a very long time, possibly not even in my lifetime.]

    I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

    by NonnyO on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 09:16:24 AM PST

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    •  What are you talking about? (2+ / 0-)
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      All I'm saying was that as stated in the constitution, the person we elected as president is the commander in chief of the military. There's no reason why the SecDef needs to be a politician too. Not seeing exactly what I stated that you're arguing with me about...

      If it makes you feel better I'm very much opposed to all our military ventures, including opposing the Afghanistan war back in 2001 when republicans and democrats alike thought it was great...

      "Today is who you are" - my wife

      by I Lurked For Years on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 09:32:57 AM PST

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      •  :-) I'm not arguing... (1+ / 0-)
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        ... merely pointing out how the terminology is used.

        We totally agree on the military ventures.  I never saw the sense in going after a little group of criminals in some remote place..., since they didn't actually DO the crimes.  The actual criminals died with their victims.  Who was there to "go after?"  Then there was that whole illegal and unconstitutional invasion of Iraq that made even less sense, and I knew they were lying from the get-go.

        Now drones have been added - less than a full week in office when Obama approved that idiocy.

        Then today, in a Friday News Dump:
        Pentagon to send missiles, 400 troops to Turkey

        I can't begin to express my dismay and how underwhelmed I am with this further stupidity.

        How not to win friends and make new enemies....

        I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

        by NonnyO on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 10:17:15 AM PST

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