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  •  The only way real gun control will happen … (0+ / 0-)

    Is through reinterpretation of the 2nd Amendment by federal judges and then the Supreme Court. Regulation by state legislature will be tossed by current Supreme Court precedent. Federal legislation will cost Democrats dearly in needed Red States AND will only affect the margins of guns. So many different type, different ways to buy, etc. the ONLY way is to have the Supreme Court say that the 2nd Amendment only applies to "well regulated militias", i.e. The National Guard of each state.

    •  Do we have a right to bear (2+ / 0-)
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      just any arms? I don't see a National Nuclear Warhead Association,  am I missing something here?

      Stay fired up: now is the time to focus on downticket change! #Forward

      by emidesu on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:03:16 PM PST

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      •  Hunting rifles & shotguns only (2+ / 0-)
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        No assault weapons, no autos, no handguns.

        •  That would be a vast improvement. (6+ / 0-)

          It would essentially follow the situation in Canada.

          But you'd still have more gun deaths than other jurisdictions. The most difficult problem is that some Americans have elevated guns to a fetish. In Canada, a gun is a tool with a recognized range of uses, not a substitute for your penis.

          "They smash your face in, and say you were always ugly." (Solzhenitsyn)

          by sagesource on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 02:54:46 PM PST

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        •  I could go for that. (1+ / 0-)
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          I am absolutely not arguing that people should not be allowed to have guns- I know some people need them whether for hunting or self defense. But there's a huge difference between shooting at the bear that's menacing your domestic animals and taking out a kindergarten class. And no internet sales, please. It should be as hard to get a gun as to drive a car.

          Stay fired up: now is the time to focus on downticket change! #Forward

          by emidesu on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 06:54:10 PM PST

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          •  I agree with this. I also think that people (1+ / 0-)
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            should have training - formal training of some kind.  We don't just hand keys to kids at 15 and let them drive down the road; there's the whole learner's permit process.  I think we should treat guns as dangerous tools that must be handled responsibly.  Having something like that required might also get disturbed people noticed and pulled out of the gun-owning pool.  Or maybe having a law that says, "You want a gun? You have to join the National Guard." Maybe that would take care of the "well regulated militia" angle...

            Like I said in another diary, we need multiple approaches to address all violence.  I don't want to just stop gun violence, I want to decrease the overall American culture of violence and violence throughout the world.  I know it's not possible to end it altogether.  I just think something holistic needs to happen for the long term survival of the species.

            BTW, I am a gun owner currently.  I even got my advice on which shotgun is the best home defense weapon from a RKBA thread...I just want people to know that not all gun owners are 100% against all control.  I'm also female.

            I agree that something, probably multiple somethings, must be done to stop the spree killings.

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