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  •  How would you do it? There are 300 million weapon (0+ / 0-)

    in the hands of American Citizens?  How do we ban them and collect them?

    •  That's not entirely accurate (0+ / 0-)

      We're talking in this thread only about semi-automatic handguns (fully automatic handguns and rifles are already banned).  There are only 100 million handguns, not 300 million.  I've been trying to look for statistics of how many of those are semi-automatic, but it has to be less than that, so you are off by at least a factor of 3, probably much more.

      We don't have to collect them all at once; if they're impossible to purchase, and there are penalties for not keeping them under lock and key (you are liable if someone steals your gun and commits a crime with it), that will incentivise more people to get rid of their guns.  Right now, it's extremely unlikely that the original lawful purchaser of a gun used in a crime will be punished.

      •  There are 310 million nonmilitary firearms in (0+ / 0-)

        America today....that we know of.   One half of America households own at least one gun.

        The point I was making, is how would it be done....if they were totally banned.  How would you collect them all?  How could you ban them today and get the guns out of the households?  Would we change the Constitution?

        If not totally banned, then what type of gun control are we talking about and how would it be implemented?

        •  But I was not talking about banning all guns (0+ / 0-)

          The context was mass-destruction handguns, such as semi-automatic pistols like the Glock used in the Newtown school shooting.  

          Banning new sales and incentivising elimination of existing WMDs was written explicitly in what I said above, namely:

          We don't have to collect them all at once; if they're impossible to purchase, and there are penalties for not keeping them under lock and key (you are liable if someone steals your gun and commits a crime with it), that will incentivise more people to get rid of their guns.  Right now, it's extremely unlikely that the original lawful purchaser of a gun used in a crime will be punished.
          I don't think we'd have to change the constitution; WMDs fall outside of "well-regulated", even if you agree with those who would turn the word "militia" into an inkblot.  Only if the USSC says there's an individual right for WMDs would I then have to support an amendment.

          In this case, (based upon the possibly inaccurate fragmentary information that's been reported), apparently the mother (who was killed by her son) allegedly was a collector who bought the handguns used to kill her and the schoolkids.  But if she had lived, it could certainly be the case that a law could be passed making her liable for negligent manslaughter for not locking up her guns and making them accessible to a mentally disturbed young man.  Such a law forcing her to keep them under lock and key would not have infringed even a very broadly interpreted right to keep and bear arms.

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