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  •  I have a Volt... (40+ / 0-)

    Best purchase I ever made.   I just love this car.

    I have now had the car just over 1 year.    I put 20,000 EV miles on it and only 139 miles on the engine.

    This car is truly a dream to drive.  

     I was finally  forced to go to the gas station due the age of the fuel in the tank being 1 year old.   My total gasoline purchase for last year was $18 against 20,000 miles.

    •  Looks like you have the miles (4+ / 0-)
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      how often to you go passed the electric portion?  I wouldn't mind the mileage, but most trips are 56 or 110 miles round trip.

    •  I also have a Volt. (7+ / 0-)

      My Volt was priced in the same range as the MKZ in that link and next year when I file my taxes the car's cost will be quite a bit less than an MKZ.  And I'm not so fanatical about gas/electric.  I own my house but have to park on the street and my neighbors know this and keep my spot open so I can charge.  And I have to park backwards on the street so the cord will reach.  

      This car handles like a much larger luxury car and I've gone on a number of long trips so I've gone about 6000 miles so far on about 22 gallons of gas.  I could have used my wife's car for the long trips to get better EV numbers but I like to drive this car too much.

      And I"d also say this is the best car I've ever owned.  And that includes some really nice BMW's and a "muscle car" I owned in the 70s.

      Oh, and the electricity it uses comes to about 1/3 the cost of gas, and I have relatively high electric rates as I've found out from internet research.

      •  What are your rates? (4+ / 0-)

        I am paying $0.10 / kWh.   I drive about 1,800 miles / month.    This ends up costing me $45.    My previous car was getting around 25 mpg.

        Running the numbers, this is saving me 72 gallons every month.   At $3.75 / gallon this works out to $225 / month or 2,700 / year.

        At 10 years this would be $27,000.  This does not even take into consideration the lower maintenance costs of the Volt.   Oil change every 2 years, less brake wear due to regenerative braking, fractional use of the engine, etc.

        If a Volt owner drives enough miles and keeps it long enough, the car will basically pay for itself!  Try that in any other new non EV car.

        •  My 2010 Prius is sweet. (3+ / 0-)

          Fun to drive and cheap too -- gas runs about $30 every couple of weeks; the lease is $175 a month and includes maintenance.  My all-time best  car was a used '86 Jaguar XJ6 -- gorgeous, intuitive, and a state trooper once asked me if I wanted to "trade cars for an hour" -- but the Prius performs as advertised, and I'll probably get a new one when the lease ends next year.

          Or maybe a Leaf. Prius is so well established, it gets no tax break.

          •  Or a Volt. (2+ / 0-)
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            Zack from the SFV, ladybug53

            I meant. Yours sounds awesome.

          •  I'm very happy with my 2006 Prius (1+ / 0-)
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               I don't have access to a good place to plug in a car so I will probably stay with a hybrid when I replace this car. I don't think I could go back to a car that gets under 40MPG or so. I will probably get a new car when I get up to the end of the battery's expected life in a year or two. I might go to the smaller Prius C which gets slightly better MPG. My only concern is that the back seat has to be big enough for me to carry my parents. The regular Prius is fine for that. I have done long road trips in my car with plenty of room for my stuff.

                 My brother is now leasing an electric Ford Focus. He thinks it is great and it meets his needs because his wife has another car that they can use on longer trips. He can go up to 100 miles on a charge.

            Diehard Swingnut, disgruntled Democrat, age 54, new CA-30

            by Zack from the SFV on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 10:09:50 PM PST

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        •  0.17 cents per KWH (2+ / 0-)
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          Zack from the SFV, ladybug53

          I live in RI and my rates are amount the highest in the US.   But according to my utilities web site, only 5% of my electrical generation is coal and only 10% is oil.  The rest is hydro (Quebec), nuclear and then a small amount wind and solar.

          So tho it's expensive, my carbon footprint is tiny.

          I traded in a Prius for this car so any money saved calculation over a Prius would be small.  Tho the carbon footprint calculation would be big.

    •  I want one. Right now, I still need a (1+ / 0-)
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      pickup (see comment upthread).

      The day that need ceases (and I can afford it), I'll be buying a Volt.

      "Bernie Madoff's mistake was stealing from the rich. If he'd stolen from the poor he'd have a cabinet position." -OPOL

      by blue in NC on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 05:11:21 PM PST

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      •  Better off renting a truck when you NEED it... (2+ / 0-)
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        blue in NC, ladybug53

        My pickup hardly gets used anymore. The other day I decided to start it up, but the alarm and clock had drained the battery. I realized it had been almost 3 months since I used it last. (Time to hook up a larger solar charger! 1W is not cutting it in winter...)

        After 15 years it's got just about 50K on the clock because I refuse to use it for anything that does not require a truck. I can fit an awful lot of stuff in my Volt, so a normal trip to the hardware store means the truck stays home. When I need long lumber or a door, I take the truck.

        With a Volt, I can drive for the fun of it again, without worrying about the cost of gas, I find myself driving to several stores to see which one has the better quality items, it's like a time warp back to the 50's, when transpo was cheap and quality was what people demanded...

        Reducing Oil Imports One Volt at a time.

        by Volt3930 on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 09:45:44 PM PST

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        •  Unfortunately, I still need the capability (1+ / 0-)
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          of my small(ish) pickup truck too often for it to be cost-effective for me to rent one when I need one.

          I love your last paragraph! What a great feeling it conjured up. Thanks!

          "Bernie Madoff's mistake was stealing from the rich. If he'd stolen from the poor he'd have a cabinet position." -OPOL

          by blue in NC on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 10:49:07 PM PST

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      •  Give me (2+ / 0-)
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        ladybug53, rat racer

        a 3/8 ton electric mini pickup anyday.

        The Job Killing Republican Party is directly responsible for the Great Bush Recession.

        by earthling1 on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 11:07:01 PM PST

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