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  •  That was a terrible statement (2+ / 0-)
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    Tonga 23, emelyn

    in your linked comment.  It shouldn't have been written.

    I'm curious, though, about your support of the Constitution.

    Is it unquestioning?  Did you support it as much when a sizable segment of our population was allowed to be legally owned by others?  When slightly more than half of the nation's adults were denied the right to vote?

    I would hope, if your "best and most loyal Democrat" statement is true, your answer to those questions is "no."

    And I would agree with you.  Our Constitution was -- and is -- a flawed document.  In my view, one of its major flaws today is the second amendment. It needs to be amended. It is vague, unclear, frankly unsuited to a modern, technologically-advanced society that overwhelmingly resides in cities, and the lack of clarity (and even proper English) in its wording invites it to be pulled and contorted into a monstrosity; as our current Supreme Court recently did with its Heller decision.

    I don't think we as a nation will ever completely ban civilian ownership of guns. And while I acknowledge the challenge is great and the chances uncertain, I think we should embark on an effort to amend the Constitution to allow more effective controls to be placed on the ownership, sale, and use of firearms. Paraphrasing Bill Clinton, I would like civilian gun ownership to be safe, tightly regulated, and rare.

    •  Ernest T Bass: slavery ended (2+ / 0-)
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      deedogg, ancblu

      at least legally, in this country, when Lee surrendered.

      That was about 94 years before I was born. So no, I don't support slavery. Don't support taking the right to vote away from women, either.

      LBJ, Lady Bird, Anne Richards, Barbara Jordan, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Drew Brees, Molly Ivins --Texas is no Bush league! -7.50,-5.59

      by BlackSheep1 on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 09:16:28 PM PST

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      •  Given that (2+ / 0-)
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        BlackSheep1, ancblu

        most everything he was asking me if I opposed at the time it was happening, ended before I was born-- I assumed he did not wish to really discuss anything and was ignoring.  Did I oppose slavery at the time it was legal?  Given it was over 100 years ago, how do you even answer that?

        Of course now I am glad we amended the Consitution to end slavery and broaden voting rights.  I like the amendments that allow you to vote regardless of race or sex and 18 year olds too.  But I was born in 1963, so it is mostly looking back for me.

        Hey! glad to see you. Hope you are doing well.

        by deedogg on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 10:03:10 PM PST

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      •  Then you have no problem amending the Constitution (0+ / 0-)


        Then I can assume you support the concept of amending the unquestioningly flawed second amendment?

        •  I would (0+ / 0-)

          only support amending out the part about a well regulated milita in order to clarify the language that seems to confuse some people.  Other than that, I do not see the need to broaden the liberty/right any further.

          I never support moves to restrict or take away rights or liberties.

          Hey! glad to see you. Hope you are doing well.

          by deedogg on Sat Dec 15, 2012 at 07:29:01 AM PST

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