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  •  ezra's post pretty much proves my point (3+ / 0-)
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    and the one clear pattern is that the shooters had easy access to guns. as i said, european cities and european small towns are not substantially different than ours. europe has all the same social dysfunctions we have. europeans don't have our staggering rates of gun deaths. they don't have guns. it's not complicated.

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    by Laurence Lewis on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 09:36:30 PM PST

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    •  Bit simplistic to say (1+ / 0-)
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      "one clear pattern."

      Europe isn't America in many, many ways.

      Again, I wasn't thinking of Europe so much as places where guns are readily available and yet school shootings were rare.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/...

      Few are on this list. Why not?

      Serbia hasthe second highest per capitaand most liberal gun ownership laws in the world. So why aren't there more mass Serbian school shootings? Switzerland is fourth. Why don't the Swiss commit an equal degree of mass murders? Saudi Arabia is fifth. Again, why? What is the difference here? Why don't these countries have proportionally representative levels of mass murders?

      I think it need not be overly simplified if we care about stopping gun violence in the U.S.. If a disease needs medication, be sure your diagnosis is correct first or else the cure could be a stopgap measure. Whatever one supports, I think we need to be careful to properly assess what is wrong with America in full; otherwise, we may not find a strong solution even with increased gun regulation. We'll just wind up with more single-shot murders. To me, that's not acceptable.

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      by mahakali overdrive on Fri Dec 14, 2012 at 09:53:15 PM PST

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