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  •  I've met the enemy and the enemy is me. (6+ / 0-)

    Understood.

    If we don't call each other names, then we can have a good honest debate.  

    Who knows, maybe you'll change my mind, maybe I'll change yours???

    I'd ask you these things:

    Do you not believe if we propose gun bans that we will not lose more elections?

    Do you not believe we are fulfilling the Right's meme that "Their coming for your guns" won't impact our electability?

    Are there any other legitimate options that you are willing to discuss besides gun banning?

    We've continually proposed such things as legalizing pot, fully funded mental health services, living wage jobs, re-establishing our social safety nets and taxing the wealthy to pay for it.

    Are these not options any longer for you? Were they ever?

    -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

    by gerrilea on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 06:58:24 PM PST

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    •  All that's for another day. (2+ / 0-)
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      As I am about to cook dinner.  This is,olive branch day, let's leave it there for now.

      "Empty vessels make the loudest sound, they have the least wit and are the greatest blabbers" Plato

      by Empty Vessel on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 07:05:22 PM PST

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    •  this was twigg's diary basically (4+ / 0-)
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      We've continually proposed such things as legalizing pot, fully funded mental health services, living wage jobs, re-establishing our social safety nets and taxing the wealthy to pay for it.
      ....that we work toward a society where people are so better off they don't feel the need for arming/attacking/defending.

      That we can all agree on, that we should renew our basic assumptions with each other about...instead of pie fights and questioning validity and motives at the drop of the pixel.

      But that's the long game and people are right now in the grievous  moment by and large, and sincerely so I believe with likely a few exceptions*..none seen here btw

      Your points might be better heard in some time, right now, not so much....save some for later, you'll need it.

      And you know what, PBO was reelected, guns issues didn't derail his reelection, onward we go.

           So to those very few real trolls out there shit stirring*, the very few....haahaa, you lost.

      This machine kills Fascists.

      by KenBee on Sun Dec 16, 2012 at 07:19:17 PM PST

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