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  •  Unfortunately this stigmatisation (13+ / 0-)

    ...of mental illness seems to be a concerted response: I wouldn't be surprised if it had some lobbying backing

    But of course, US incidence of mental illness and per capital spending on mental health, is very similiar to the UK. Yet your homicide rate is 5 times ours, and gun death rate 100 times.

    Yet, in an attempt to deflect from the obvious problem, there is no group who won't be vilified

    Meanwhile, enjoy this from the Gun Owners of America

    "Gun control supporters have the blood of little children on their hands"
    http://www.specialguests.com/...

    DaFuq?

    The Fall of the House of Murdoch -with Eric Lewis and all the latest Leveson evidence out now!

    by Brit on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 06:39:52 AM PST

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    •  How do you reconcile your comment with this? (0+ / 0-)
      In the decade following the party's election in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77 per cent to 1.158million - or more than two every minute.
      The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:
      The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.
      It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
      The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.
      It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.
      But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking. The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100,000 residents.
      In the UK, there are 2,034 offences per 100,000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1,677.
      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/....

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      Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.
      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/....

    •  Yes. I first saw the mention of mental illness (1+ / 0-)
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      in a diary here; two days later I hear it coming out of the mouth of Joe Manchin.  I am afraid this real concern--b/c we don't really deal well with mental illness here in the States--is becoming a simple tool for deflection of gun restrictions.

      A thousand Sharkeys are invading a thousand Shires every day across our country.--James Wells

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 02:50:52 PM PST

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