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  •  Petral, can you expand on who started (8+ / 0-)

    the social collapse fantasies? A diary on that would be great.

    It seems to me that they have been the driving force behind the perceived need to own assault weapons.

    If we can reveal that the crisis was purposely created to make money at the expense of public sanity & safety, we will have stronger arguments to counteract the 2nd amendment flack.

    A demonstrated purposeful creation of paranoia & anti-social aggressive behaviors needs to be revealed to the public discourse.

    Thank you for identifying the language to describe the problem!

    Something that doesn't make good sense, makes bad sense. That means someone is being deliberately hurtful & selfish. Look for motives behind actions & words.

    by CA wildwoman on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 06:58:18 AM PST

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    •  It's really kind of readily available (0+ / 0-)

      When the old society clearly is exhausted and the new not yet charted, there's really nothing to be certain of.  I don't think you can really trace back through (for instance) the trail of distopian movies ("On The Beach", "Blade Runner", "The Road", ...) to find somebody behind it all.

      In this case it seems that being somewhat isolated in a rural or exurban setting with a distant sense of the massive city centers just over the horizon (Paul Ryan's "urban voters") shared in a general way by the larger community is enough to set off a sense of impending collapse in some.  After all, it was a not totally dissimilar setting in which Jesus predicted the imminent coming of Heaven on Earth.

      This makes reform very important, not to make the new world but to make people's lives less desperate and disorganized in this, so that they/we can make calmer decisions in the transition.

    •  The IPCC? (0+ / 0-)

      A thousand Sharkeys are invading a thousand Shires every day across our country.--James Wells

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 02:55:59 PM PST

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