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  •  So do the kids in Pakistan (4+ / 0-)
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    jorogo, quagmiremonkey, Fabiano1, Simplify

    whose siblings have been killed in his increasing use of drone strikes, as "collateral damage."

    It's hard to lecture people on not killing people when you're justifying killing people every day.

    It will take another president to help change violence and death as an American tradition.  Cute photos not withstanding.

    •  I was considering (2+ / 0-)
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      posting a photo of some of those Pakistani children here, but any rational person knows no picture really "tells everything".....especially the staged ones.

      "All war is stupid" - JFK

      by jorogo on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 11:53:02 AM PST

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    •  Exactly right recontext (0+ / 0-)

      I find that to be difficult as well. How do you lecture others on violence and killing when you are one of the biggest purveyors of violence in the world? Quite ironic in my opinion..

      •  What's ridiculous (0+ / 0-)

        is that so many people's worldview and sense of worth in society is wrapped up in whether the Dear Leader is a good or bad person at heart. I've talked to people here who, if it turned out that Obama didn't care about them or if he wasn't "nice," would have their whole outlook on life wrecked.

        Look, it matters, but he's not our friend, and we don't know him personally. What matters more is what he did, does, and will do. If he's going to order drone strikes in which some innocent people including children will die, if he's going to deport a record number of people, if he's going to let more people's lives be wrecked in the drug war, if he's going to let banksters get away with defrauding millions of their homes and life savings, but he does all of this regretfully, well, whoop-de-doo! One more well-intentioned layer of asphalt on the road to hell.

        Anyone might think Obama is overall a good President or a bad President. Whether he's a good person at heart is secondary.

        Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

        by Simplify on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 04:02:10 PM PST

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    •  Well, kids in Pakistan in taliban-controlled areas (1+ / 0-)
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      do not know much - islamists are not much into education, especially of females. Remember Malala?

      He who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.

      by Sophie Amrain on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 03:07:03 PM PST

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