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  •  I can't possibly judge the story you tell without (3+ / 0-)

    knowing the word that you said.  Retarded - crazy - disturbed - what was it?  C'mon.

    You know, I work as an attorney. And confidentiality forbids me from rebutting your story, but I know of a lot of times when people untrained in spotting mental illness, have labeled kids or seen warning signs that weren't there.  I've seen kids expelled from classes because of poorly developed social skills and rumors.  So it cuts both ways.  

    And besides, do we even know anything about Adam? I've seen no evidence of an active mental illness diagnosis. I've heard him described as withdrawn, but I heard someone else say he was just an introvert.  Adam was out of the school system for approximately 2 years.  I'm not sure what could have been done to discover Adam before this moment happened.  

    •  Who said you should judge? (2+ / 0-)
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      jan4insight, Throw The Bums Out

      And why would you think to do it in response to this diary?

      "[L]et us judge not that we be not judged." Abraham Lincoln, March 4, 1865

      by ByTor on Mon Dec 17, 2012 at 10:59:32 AM PST

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      •  How are we suppose to know if the person's (2+ / 0-)
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        pollyusa, AllisonInSeattle

        reaction was justified if we don't know what she said?  I'm sorry I don't take everything I read on the internet, even on this site, at face value. We don't have any context.  

        "Hey sister, your younger brother is acting fucking crazy!"  "Hey sister, your little brother is a retard!"  "God, is your brother dumb or something?"

        What if she said that about a student?  How is the sister suppose to take that?  You have a teacher gossiping with the boy's sister in an inappropriate setting (not trying to get the boy help) and she is pissed that someone got upset?  

        I'm sorry, I tend to be more skeptical.  

        •  Hmm... (1+ / 0-)
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          I can't possibly judge the story you tell...
          Seems to me you've done nothing but judge it. You've mischaracterized events so badly, and made so many unwarranted assumptions in a short space, that it's clear you're interested only in judgment, not understanding. There is therefore no point in giving you any more information, since you've already misread what I have given you so severely that your "judgment" is corrupted no matter what more I tell you.

          I made it very clear how I phrased the statement ("There's simply no reason for this behavior. It's inexplicable, it's bizarre, it's [X]."). I also made it clear that I was probably wrong to use the word [X] and did not mean to excuse it here, but also that I used it to describe the behavior, not the student, as the aforementioned context which I provided, and which you conveniently ignored so you could indulge in this self-righteous rant, showed. The issue is not that the sister and/or the mother were "upset" by it; the issue is that they were solely concerned with what I said (which, again, I did not actually say) and not at all with how their brother/son could be helped, thus eliminating any possibility of anyone doing the latter.

          Why should it matter what [X] is? What you're saying is that it is appropriate and "justified" to focus one's efforts on crucifying the teacher and thus completely ignore the student's problem, if what the teacher said (or, more to the point, what the parent thinks the teacher said) was "bad" enough; that in at least some circumstances it is more important to punish a teacher for his/her poor choice of words, a momentary, inadvertent breach of etiquette, than to understand and address what might be a very serious, long-term problem for a student that is affecting the rest of the class and will not go away on its own.

          In effect you've proven my point; we're more interested in hanging teachers than in helping kids.

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