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  •  Let me repeat. (0+ / 0-)

    The view that such a diary would express was articulated in this diary, and the discussion in this diary well aired this topic on both sides. So why repeat, especially given the lack of respect demonstrated here? Why? You call this an "aging diary" but I voiced my perspective when this diary was not "aging." I posted this when this diary was high on the Rec list.

    You think I am your enemy, I am not. You want to take your frustrations out on someone. No thanks. I am not a victim, but I am also not a gluten for abuse either. By choice, I voiced my perspective several times on Daily Kos because I felt a tempered prudent perspective was needed. I knew I would be challenging people, but I felt that maybe a patient respectful expression of a tempered perspective would be respected. It was not. I get the anger. But in times of tragedy, one must see beyond the fear and anger. You have proven that a reasoned tempered perspective is not respected. You lash out. You are angry. You are afraid. And I get that. But a responsible approach to problems requires more than that. As I said above, your words are born of fear and anger, not reason, and most certainly, not from wisdom. I am not the enemy. I am not against additional gun legislation. That is not why I expressed my perspective. And now I am repeating myself here with you, and I doubt you are gonna hear me this time, since you did not hear me before. You want to take out your fear and anger on someone. Why don't you go hit a heavyweight bag, or do some yoga, something, but attacking me isn't the solution.

    •  Did you read my earlier comment? (0+ / 0-)

      I'm talking about this part:

      And please spare me your persecution complex.

      You're really, really, really caught up in your own suffering, aren't you?  Such a poor, tortured, tormented soul.  You can't even express your views here on a blog without someone "lashing out" (aka disagreeing) or "not respect[ing]" (aka proving wrong) your allegedly "reasoned tempered perspective."  

      I know you haven't been here very long, and I doubt you'll spend very much time here, but spirited discussion is what DK is all about.  We don't generally have a lot of time for people who are willing to sacrifice the lives of young children, though.  We progressives are funny that way.  We're all about this crazy compassion thing.  And we really don't have time for people who are so afraid of having their views challenged that they won't expose them to the site's readership.

      I've posted here about very controversial topics.  Somehow I managed to survive the onslaught of disagreement and discussion.  You might be able to do the same, if you really believed your position was so prudent and rational and tempered and responsible.  But deep down, you obviously know it's not.  (You admitted as much by saying you knew you'd get HR'd into oblivion if you posted it.)  Sorry, but I can't be bothered with that kind of intellectual cowardice.

      This discussion (such as it was) is now over.  Enjoy what will doubtless be your very brief time on the site.

      "Ça c'est une chanson que j'aurais vraiment aimé ne pas avoir écrite." -- Barbara

      by FogCityJohn on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 06:23:28 PM PST

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      •  Did you read my comment? (0+ / 0-)

        It appears as if you did not.

        The views in such a diary are already expressed in this diary... two sides of the same coin. I have nothing new to add.

        And now I have stated that three times. So clearly you are not reading nor comprehending my words. But, you are angry and I really am not the enemy. I promise you that I am not. But I get the sorrow from this horrific tragedy, so I do understand. I have no wish to upset people further, for we are all grieving, in our own way, no matter what you may think.

        Whether I continue to contribute or not, I do not know. It's not that I cannot hold my own in a debate, but I just do not have the time to keep repeating myself to people, like yourself, who are clearly not listening.

        But, I have been a reader of this site for almost two years, and although I have only just recently joined, I do appreciate this site as a valuable contribution to the progressive movement, to the Democratic Party, and to our democracy in general... in a variety of ways, most especially, in the mutually respectful informed discussions. And as such, I shall always remain a fan and I expect to continue as an avid reader, no matter what. This site was invaluable for me during the 2012 election, and I can only imagine that it was equally invaluable during the 2008 election.

        However, on this one topic, many of you seem to be unable to remain civil and respectful. You have proven yourselves to be unable to listen to challenging perspectives. I guess this is understandable, given the horror of this tragedy. I understand, and I will not judge you all on your response to this event alone. No. I am reminded of the five stages of grief:

        1) Denial
        2) Anger
        3) Bargaining
        4) Depression
        5) Acceptance

        You might benefit from pondering these.

        Good day, Sir.

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