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  •  Which is why the 22nd should be repealed -- (1+ / 0-)
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    so that the President is NOT a lame duck.

    Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
    I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
    —Spike Milligan

    by polecat on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 11:10:23 AM PST

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    •  These things are ostensibly supposed to work (1+ / 0-)
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      the other way around. We always hope that someone like President Obama is going to do great things in the second term, now that the pressure of the election has been removed: no more obligation to those that bankrolled his candidacy; no more need to keep certain initiatives off the table, lest the Republicans paint him as a pinko.

      But, of course, we might now be seeing his natural inclination, the way he would like to act, ideologically, in the absence of any pressures. I suppose an additional pressure is that of his progressive activists, who had to be kept pumped up during the campaign in order to motivate them to win the election on his behalf. He is no longer subject to that pressure, and so we see a switch from candidate Obama to incumbent Obama. That seems to be the net result of the term limit.

      At the same time, we should be careful what we wish for. Bush left office well after he should have left it, but if the term limits weren't in place, maybe we'd still be dealing with his failed presidency.

      Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of non-thought. -- Milan Kundera

      by Dale on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 11:33:37 AM PST

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      •  By that argument we'll be right and truly screwed (1+ / 0-)
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        in 2014.

        Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
        I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
        —Spike Milligan

        by polecat on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 11:57:02 AM PST

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        •  By which argument, precisely? n/t (0+ / 0-)

          Nothing requires a greater effort of thought than arguments to justify the rule of non-thought. -- Milan Kundera

          by Dale on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 12:01:36 PM PST

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          •  I quote: (0+ / 0-)
            He is no longer subject to that [progressive] pressure, and so we see a switch from candidate Obama to incumbent Obama. That seems to be the net result of the term limit.
            My emphasis.  Think about 2014 with Obama being laisse faire about the midterms (2010, anyone?).  

            QED.

            Happy little moron, Lucky little man.
            I wish I was a moron, MY GOD, Perhaps I am!
            —Spike Milligan

            by polecat on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 07:17:43 PM PST

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    •  God no (1+ / 0-)
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      It's hard enough to unseat incumbents in the Senate.

      It would be ten times as hard to unseat an incumbent President.  

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