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  •  what makes you think gore/lieberman (5+ / 0-)

    would not have gone to war.

    clinton went to war in bosnia.
    after 9-11 there would have been a war (at least in afghanistan, and yeah 9-11 would probably have happened still with gore b/c clinton failed to kill bin laden when he had the chance)... and like when clinton bombed iraq innocents died...

    •  Clinton went to war to stop the shelling (3+ / 0-)
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      by the Serbs of Bosnian civilians in Kosovo .  I supported that.

      Unfortunately, the USAF deployed depleted Uranium munitions, which in my view constitutes a war crime, if not a crime against humanity.

      U-238 (the isotope in depleted Uranium) is mildly radioactive; it emits an alpha particle which can be stopped by a piece of paper.  Unfortunately U-238 munitions are pyrophoric, and generate dust and powder when they explode.  These get into the air and soil and water, and are then ingested.

      An alpha particle emitted inside your body is no longer innocuous.  Whatever it hits (like a DNA molecule) will be damaged.

      The half-life of U-238 is about 4.5 billion years, so it's not going away anytime soon.

      I still don't know whether to blame Clinton for the depleted Uranium weapons (which way pre-date him).  I don't know if any president can order an air strike and still specify their that they not be used.

      The hungry judges soon the sentence sign, And wretches hang, that jurymen may dine.

      by magnetics on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 12:15:36 PM PST

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      •  I imagine the POS can dictate the non use (4+ / 0-)
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        of uranium tipped weapons.  What's a General going to say? No?  Not blaming Clinton is like not blaming Obama for the drone attacks.  Doesn't make sense.  

        Romney is George W. Bush without brains.

        by thestructureguy on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 01:07:42 PM PST

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      •  Not that simple. (1+ / 0-)
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        We should not have been involved in the whole Bosnian mess given the history there.  Clinton went to war to stop the shelling by the Serbs of Bosnian civilians in Kosovo, so we would up bombing civilian populations and killing civilians in order to stop the killing of civilians.

        Clinton's foreign policy was just as stupid and futile as every other president since the National Security Act of 1947.

        I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever. ~Thomas Jefferson

        by bobdevo on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 02:40:24 PM PST

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      •  Funny how the genocides keep happening *after* (2+ / 0-)
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        we intervene to stop genocide.

        "Furthermore, if you think this would be the very very last cut ever if we let it happen, you are a very confused little rabbit." cai

        by JesseCW on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 03:08:08 PM PST

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    •  It's time to get off Nader's back (5+ / 0-)
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      for Gore loosing to Bush. Gore could not even win his own state. Also picking a piece of shit who was and remains one of the worse warmonger in congress as his running mate was a terribly stupid thing to do.

      Picking Lieberman as a running mate was even more stupid than the pick made by McCain. So please, let's quit blaming Nader for loosing us the election.

      When Joe ran on his own in the presidential primary he received about two percent of the democratic rank-and-file votes, despite the fact that the entire braindead leadership in CT supported that warmonger in that primary.

      War is costly. Peace is priceless!

      by frostbite on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 03:29:32 PM PST

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    •  "after 9-11" (2+ / 0-)
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      I doubt a Gore-Lieberman administration would have worked QUITE so hard to ignore the intelligence about 9-11 before hte fact. Or worked QUITE so hard to involve Iraq in the response, where there was no evidence of Iraqi involvement... they may have let the Saudi's slide, or not. But Plame/yellow-cake? Saddam's WMD?

      I kind of doubt things would have developed exactly as they did during 2000-2008.

      "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

      by chimene on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:38:37 PM PST

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      •  You're right. Gore was not part of the New (0+ / 0-)

        American Century crowd that had been wanting to invade Iraq for years.  There would have been no Iraq war.

        --------------------- “These are troubling times. Corporation are treated like people. People are treated like things. …And if we ever needed to vote, we sure do need to vote now.” -- Rev. Dr. William J. Barber

        by Fiona West on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 06:41:03 PM PST

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