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  •  First amendment vs second amendment. (1+ / 0-)
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    There are appropriate restrictions, and I'm in favor of banning children from playing these games.

    I'm actually okay with California's legal ban on children purchasing these games. I don't think kids should play them. The ratings should have teeth in my mind.

    And no, these games are not "good." I would agree with the statement that "Violent videogames are turgid little gun wanks that serve no artistic purpose."

    Worse than being senseless orgies of violence, they're poorly made. There's no story, no subtlety, no pacing, they're just gun wanks. There hasn't been much artistic development in them for years.

    Then you have games like Fallout, and Assassins Creed, both of which have mature themes in them, but have artistic merit to them. In the former, you use weapons like the Rock-It launcher, which shoots plates and baseball bats at your enemies, while the latter's involves nothing more advanced than flintlocks.

    But that's beside the point.

    Video Games are a deflection. There is absolutely no evidence that video games had anything, at all, to do with this. As noted below, saying that the shooter played video games just means that he was a male under the age of forty.

    There's no link between video games and this shooting. But there's a pretty clear link between guns and this shooting.

    An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

    by OllieGarkey on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 10:54:59 PM PST

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    •  I can see the gun lobby turning your argument (1+ / 0-)
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      on it's head.

      But there's a pretty clear link between guns and this shooting.
       All they have to do is ask "Exactly WHICH guns?"  Try to restrict a type of firearm and the retort is "Well, THIS particular make of firearm or type of ammunition has never been used in a mass-shooting, so you have no evidence of a problem with it.  Only restrict models that have been ACTUALLY used in a mass shooting."  Using that logic--your logic--virtually no meaningful restrictions would ever be enacted on any firearms or ammunition or they would be incredibly easy to circumvent.  

      Political compass: -8.75 / -4.72

      by Mark Mywurtz on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 04:09:26 AM PST

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      •  "Semi-Automatic Rifles" Full stop. Do not define (0+ / 0-)

        the weapons more than there. Do not define the ammunition more than there. Treat all Semi-Automatic rifles as identical.

        Also, the AR-15/M4A4 type reciever is one of the best engineered gun types on the planet. IF we could ban any gun which used any part from the AR-15, or parts which were "functionally identical", you'd get a huge chunk of those semiauto rifles.

        Granted the gun industry would just engineer a new system.

        Just because my hair will grow back doesn't mean I shouldn't go get it cut every once in a while.

        An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

        by OllieGarkey on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 10:52:35 AM PST

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