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  •  But... but... FREEDOM!!!!!! (6+ / 0-)


    You tell your British King... that he may take our loives... but he'll never take, our Firearms!!!!


    Seriously though, the UK's got a National Health Service too, and the odds of that happening here...


    I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

    by detroitmechworks on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 07:19:37 PM PST

    •  Yup you hear the apologists say that suicide (2+ / 0-)
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      deaths don't count, that way the death rate drops by 2/3.  As we say in my field, numbers don't lie but liars do figure.

      In any case, even if we exclude homicides and "justifiable" killings, we still have 3 to 4 times the death toll of 9/11 EVERY YEAR.  How many times the death toll of 9/11 is acceptable to the domestic terrorists at the NRA?  Will getting us to the firearm homicide rate of Mexico satisfy them? (It is ironic and very sad that 80% of the guns wreaking havoc in Mexico come from the US courtesy of those same terrorists at the NRA, but hey, anything for a buck!)

      Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

      by DefendOurConstitution on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 07:47:53 PM PST

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      •  Ironic too.... (1+ / 0-)
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        ....that Mexico is one of the very few countries outside the US to have a right to keep and bear arms written into their constitution. How's that working out for them?

        "They smash your face in, and say you were always ugly." (Solzhenitsyn)

        by sagesource on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 11:26:28 PM PST

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        •  That is very misleading (1+ / 0-)
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          Mexico has one of the strictest gun control laws out there. For example, take a look at this article.

          I'm sure you know that the violence in Mexico is fueled by the drug demand in the US and until that root cause is addressed, cartels will remain powerful. Also, not saying that you don't know this, but the main source of weapons of the cartels is the US and an arms trafficking concept known as "the parade of ants" - numerous seemingly everyday American individuals buying semi-automatics and other guns and then smuggling them across the border.

    •  makes one wonder (2+ / 0-)
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      Purple Priestess, Renee

      sometimes who got the better deal in 1776...

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 08:04:39 PM PST

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