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  •  As Far As I'm Concerned, Anyone Who Is In... (1+ / 0-)
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    tobendaro

    the Republican party or spends their hard earned cash on hundreds of bullets & multiple guns.....is mental.

    There's a component here of mental illness in all these mass shootings, but somehow the perpetrators always manage to get the black outfits, the body shields, the multiple high velocity clips, & load & reload their weapons.

    Somehow they overcome their mental problems to plan, implement & kill people.  Hmmmm......seems rather convenient to me the way they can slip in & out of lucidity.

    Even dying your hair orange & pretending you are "The Joker" as the killer did in the Aurora movie theater....took some planning.  Then somehow he slipped into his convenient "I'm just a crazy guy".  

    He also managed to intercept  tons of UPS deliveries to his apartment bringing ammo to him.  And he had time to rig up his apartment.....bomb style.  

    •  Mental illness or homicidal anger? (0+ / 0-)

      That's one thing that researchers have to figure out. If Lanza's Aspergers did not contribute to the shooting, what did? Perhaps he was also depressed and raging at the world. There is something abnormal about the complete lack of empathy and desire to direct his rath toward kindergarteners.  I don't know enough about psychoses to say, but it's worth finding out.

      The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

      by LiberalLady on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 09:40:21 PM PST

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    •  Mental illness (3+ / 0-)

      does not equal stupid. Sociopathy is defined by intelligence. Organizational skills and an ability to plan goes with the diagnosis. Millions of socio- and psychopaths go undiagnosed for decades; millions more are diagnosed--what then?

      "If I could work my will, every idiot who goes about with 'Merry Christmas' on his lips should be boiled with his own pudding and buried with a stake of holly through his heart."--Scrooge

      by crose on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 09:42:51 PM PST

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    •  You made a good point about these massacres (2+ / 0-)
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      not being spontaneous, like psychotic episodes. The crimes are well planned and prepared for, what they will wear, which guns to use, how to break in. There is something cold and calculating about these crimes. One rabbi wrote that the shooters are not mentally ill, they are simply evil. I don't know. I just know that guns should be hard to obtain so they would not be available for sane people who break down/lose control and for the cold calculating murderers.

      ❧To thine ownself be true

      by Agathena on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 10:03:14 PM PST

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      •  I guess it's in how you define mental illness (2+ / 0-)
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        snapples, CherryTheTart

        Psychopaths can be very calculating and manipulative, but they are still psychopaths who feel no empathy like the rest of us. The difference is in how we hold them accountable -- they may have a mental disorder, yet they are still responsible for their actions.

        The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

        by LiberalLady on Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 10:07:52 PM PST

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