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  •  I Also Live On Social Security (10+ / 0-)

    and my federal retiremnt which is not very much.  I gave to democrats and President Obama because I trusted that they would protect medicare and social security.  No more.

    "Don't Let Them Catch You With Your Eyes Closed"

    by rssrai on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 06:48:18 AM PST

    •  They need to be reminded on their promises (3+ / 0-)
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      geordie, Actbriniel, blueoasis

      I believe that Harry Reid will not let this happen because he does understand power. But Obama apparently needs to be reminded that he won the election.

      A working man robs a bank and it's a federal manhunt. A banker robs a working man and gets a bailout.

      by Grassroots Mom on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 06:55:07 AM PST

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      •  I don't trust either Reid or Pelosi (1+ / 0-)
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        they have also caved to Obama too many times in the past.  After some bill is formulated (and you can be sure there will be one) most Dem Senators and Congresspeople will go along with it, spouting some platitudes such as "well, it was the best deal that could be struck" or "everybody had to sacrifice a 'little' to get this deal done".  

      •  The DNC probably should be hearing from (2+ / 0-)
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        Grassroots Mom, geordie

        voters right about now, too.

        I did NOT give any money because I have an ailing, elderly Mother and aside from just being cautious, I suspected from Obama's statements that he was not strong on protecting Social Security and Medicare.  Still what I did not donate won't make up the difference if the chained CPI reduction estimates I've seen are even remotely accurate.  Not even close.

        Anyway, as far as I'm concerned Obama is currently attempting to give up the benefits that my Mother earned to a bunch of madmen who are only going to come back for more later.  More huckster than hero, imo.

      •  I do not trust Reid now,... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...not after I read this from The Hill yesterday.

        Reid declined to say whether he could support the proposal reportedly considered by the White House to use a new formula for calculating Social Security cost-of-living adjustments, noting that he will not be asked to vote on just that provision but instead on a broad package.
        That last bit about "vot[ing]... on a broad package" means he's already decided he's willing to vote to cut SS benefits. It's the same reasoning that the Democrats used last time when they had been pledging to end of the Bush tax cuts but went along with an extention in order to get an extention of unemployment insurance. With this deal, just like the last one, the Democrats in Congress will cite something in this deal as being why they're accepting cutting Social Security benefits. They'll trot out a line of "we didn't want to but we had to". And they'll probably throw in a line of "no body got everything they wanted" too.

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