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  •  I would agree... (8+ / 0-)

    ... with changing "mothers" to "women."  

    A woman is a woman before she's a mother, and some women do not wish to be mothers at the time they seek an abortion.
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    Then, there was the case of my maternal grandmother - mother of five living children, ages 15 down to two - my mother was 13.  Sixth pregnancy, she developed pre-eclampsia which killed the fetus at six months.  On the back of her death certificate the doctor has written that the fetus died in March.  He prescribed bed rest and waited for her body to expel the dead fetus naturally.  It never happened.  The end of May she went into labor at term, rushed to the hospital, emergency surgery was done, but it was too late to save her.  She died of blood loss, parturition effort and toxemia of pregnancy [old term for pre-eclampsia].  One of my aunts told me she used to sit by my grandmother's bedside and hold her hand while my gram cried and cried and cried because she knew her baby was dead and she was in physical pain from the effects of her body being poisoned.  The doc even made a death certificate for the fetus: baby boy, of six months gestation but carried to term.

    One of Gram's sisters was often heard at family get-togethers loudly saying that her sister's death was unnecessary and that if she had been a cow or a horse she would have been treated more humanely.  [True.  A vet would have removed a dead fetus and saved the farm animal.]

    Religions and/or governments who make laws based on religious doctrine interfering in the lives of pregnant women are the bane of many women's existences by trying to punish women for either rape or willing sex, and the cause of the deaths of many more women because of antiquated laws.

    IMHO, an organization of theoretically celibate men have NO right to dictate to a woman what she may or may not do or decide regarding any pregnancy she has.  Period.  All laws regarding abortion should be removed from all law books.  It's a medical matter.  It's no one's business what a woman decides!  Sometimes an abortion is medically necessary to save the life of the mother (and I'm pretty sure when a fetus is already dead it can't be considered a true abortion anyway), and only antiquated laws brought about their deaths.  Going backward to standards from the Dark Ages denies the autonomy of women who gained their rights because women in past and present generations died under old laws.

    Religious "leaders":  Keep your noses out of women's vaginas and uteruses!!!  You have NO business dictating morality or medical advice, given your history of sexually abusing children (both boys and girls).  STFU!

    Sorry.  Obviously, this is a hot button issue for me because of what happened to my maternal grandmother; I heard about her death a minimum of once a month my entire life until my own mother died; Mom never got over her mother's death, and then died the day after the anniversary of her mother's death.  My paternal grandmother was a midwife, and she had the largest funeral ever held in that little community church because she'd attended at the births of so many of the people there; people who were there told me there was standing room only.

    I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

    by NonnyO on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 12:11:29 AM PST

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