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  •  I found this quote (9+ / 0-)

    that seems to explain it rather well.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    Rob Frates, the manager of Discount Shooter, a local gun shop in Roseville, Calif., said he sold four AR-15s on Monday. “You tell a child they can’t have something, they want it even more, and it’s no different with these guns,” Frates told HuffPost. “There are millions of them out there, and the main thing that’s driving up the price is all the talk in the media that’s putting a negative spin on the firearm.”
    This diary is the basic RKBA message writ in scare quotes. I guess if I'm going to trade away legislative power over anything, saving people's lives from guns seems like a good reason for it. But I'll wait for the angst and woe to materialize in reality before I surrender to despair.

    There is nothing so ridiculous that some philosopher has not said it. -- Cicero

    by tytalus on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 06:31:22 PM PST

    •  I remember the right-wing telling me that (0+ / 0-)

      warrantless wiretaps would save people's lives from terrorism.
      I rejected that argument, and I reject yours.
      I will not sacrifice liberty for perceived security, and I will not vote for those that do.

      Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

      by FrankRose on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 01:22:43 AM PST

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      •  Yeah, I'm aware (1+ / 0-)
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        that folks like me need to defeat folks like you at the polls. 'perceived security'. feh.

        There is nothing so ridiculous that some philosopher has not said it. -- Cicero

        by tytalus on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 06:26:36 AM PST

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        •  "'percieved security'. feh." (0+ / 0-)

          Based on this comment, it looks like we both agree that sacrificing Constitutional Rights for percieved security is a foolish idea.

          We aren't the only ones that share that viewpoint....and I am not the only one whose vote will be influenced by it.

          Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

          by FrankRose on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 06:55:37 AM PST

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