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  •  This is, um, going well. (4+ / 0-)

    Am I mistaken or is it RKBA's position that we have to stay away from gun control because if we bring it up, we lose?

    202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

    by cany on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 07:28:25 PM PST

    •  There's an old phrase that applies. (3+ / 0-)
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      "More than one way to skin a cat".

      Meaning, more than one way to get what you want.

      Want reduced gun violence? How about we avoid this Path A, because we've used that path once before and it had some quite foul consequences. How about we use Path B?

      But the dem team leaders have chosen Path A again. And I am reminded of that saying about doing the same thing over and over while expecting different outcomes.

    •  Please, let's discuss it. But let's not make that (2+ / 0-)
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      the one issue that will define us as a quaint footnote in history.

      There are real options and alternatives that can make a difference in all our lives.  Fully funded public health services, living wage jobs, restoring all our social safety nets, ending the racist "war on drugs", etc.

      This will be our Waterloo.

      -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

      by gerrilea on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 08:36:58 PM PST

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      •  That seems so obvious, but I'm (2+ / 0-)
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        struck by how few progressives see those correlations.

        It is worth repeating and re-emphasizing.  Thanks.

        The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety. H.L. Mencken

        by ancblu on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 11:43:31 PM PST

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    •  That seems like a fair question to ask ... (0+ / 0-)

      Although I am not a member, I'm not sure there is a single RKBA position on "gun rights" or "gun control."  

      If there is some consensus, perhaps it is to have an informed and substantive discussion about these matters of signficant importance to our society.  I would also expect stricter regulation would be favored over outright bans and multi-modal approaches for underlying social factors would be emphasized as utimately more effective measures to address the recognized social problem of gun violence.

      I am open to correction on these points.

      The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety. H.L. Mencken

      by ancblu on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 11:41:41 PM PST

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