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  •  One the fascinating things about WWI (2+ / 0-)

    to give a horribly inappropriate sports analogy is that the game was basically tied halfway through the 4th quarter. The Germans almost knocked the Allies out 9 months before the armistice with their spring offensive. American numbers streaming into Europe made the difference and saved the allies.

     That war was much different from WWII where the war was basically over at halftime. German and Japanese fanaticism prolonged the war another 2 years.

    •  Or maybe not. Arguably, the Germans were (1+ / 0-)
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      attempting a negotiated truce in 1917, but the U.S. entering the war meant that the allies had no reason to continue talks, so the war continued for another 15 months.

      •  What German Peace Talks in 1917 (1+ / 0-)
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        I think you must be thinking of German ideas of negotiating a truce in 1918, not 1917.  In 1917, the Germans were pushing the Mexicans to attack the US, as exemplified in the infamous Zimmerman telegram, which is what finally triggered the US entry into the war.  Wilson might have been miffed by the German unrestricted submarine warfare, but the direct threat to the US shown by their duplicity in promoting another power to attack the US pushed him into asking for a war declaration.  The Germans also would have had no interest in asking for a truce in 1917 because they had just knocked Russia out of the war and were gobbling up huge chunks of Russian territory.  They were also advancing in the Po River Valley, almost taking Italy out of the war too.  The only time the Germans ever asked for discussions was when they were totally incapable of continuing and even then the military dictatorship which had ruled Germany for three years quit and left that task to the civilian government, thereby enabling the "stab in the back" canard to be employed later by the German fascists and revanchists.  German militarism ruled completely in 1917.

        "Love the Truth, defend the Truth, speak the Truth, and hear the Truth" - Jan Hus, d.1415 CE

        by PrahaPartizan on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 08:19:11 PM PST

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