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  •  Well, if the Mayans are right about tomorrow... (5+ / 0-)

    there's at least one upside:

    It will mean the end of all these senseless teeth-gnashing, pants-pissing diaries and comments.

    Fuck, people, have you ever negotiated anything in your lives? A raise with the boss? A point with your significant other?

    President Obama was re-elected. I know how sad that makes some of you feel, so allow me to repeat it:

    President Obama was re-elected...

    in spite of your previous four years of teeth-gnashing, pants-pissing, and senseless yammering, when you were proven wrong again and again and again and again and again and...

    How about I believe in the unlucky ones?

    by BenderRodriguez on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 06:19:30 AM PST

    •  Yes I have negotiated (8+ / 0-)

      and your hero is either a bad negotiator or a bad person and all of your blind loyalty doesn't change that. Either be specific and tell us how your hero is such a good negotiator or go find yourself an Obamalove diary - there was one last night I believe.

    •  Yes... (13+ / 0-)

      And the number 1 rule in negotiation is that you must be willing to walk away from the table.

      The number 2 rule is that you state you position and you make the other guy come to you.  You don't start with your position and then guess what is 'half-way' and move to that.

      'Goodwill' between the GOP and the President is as abundant as unicorn farts - Me'

      by RichM on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 07:26:46 AM PST

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      •  Walk away from the table? (1+ / 0-)
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        What other table can we sit down at as an alternative?

        Besides, only those who negotiate in bad faith are unwilling to move towards the other side.

        47 is the new 51!

        by nickrud on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 11:31:49 AM PST

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        •  Despite the media's proclamations, the failure to (3+ / 0-)

          do something will not ruin anything.  Taxes go up for everyone, and unemployment ends for some people.  It will suck, but it will also put pressure on the Republicans to move.  Democrats don't need to give when they have already given too much.  Republicans created the mess, Republicans continue the mess and for once they should be forced to own the mess instead of Democrats attempting to save them from themselves.

          The entire situation can be fixed without cuts to social services.  Raise taxes on the uberwealthy, not just income taxes above the Clinton rates, but also bring capital gains on par with income.  Lower the medicare age allowing younger people to buy in, and allow medicare to negotiate drug prices.  Medicaid is a safety net and if you have too many people in the safety net, you find where they are falling from and fix it so it won't happen.  In the case of medicaid, the hole is the healthcare system which is too expensive, allowing a medicare buy in will help, but increasing minimum wage will also help since you will decrease the amount of people living in poverty thereby decreasing the amount of medicaid users.  

          If you want to cut government spending, start by streamlining the military and homeland security by combining and eliminating agencies, including consolidating the intelligence agencies of which there are currently at least 16.

    •  So, you can't actually defend his proposed (3+ / 0-)
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      cuts to Social Security.


      Why not just come out and say that?

      "Furthermore, if you think this would be the very very last cut ever if we let it happen, you are a very confused little rabbit." cai

      by JesseCW on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 10:54:51 AM PST

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    •  amen to this!!!! (4+ / 0-)

      Sometimes it feels like I'm on "redstate" not Dailykos.....

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