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  •  We need a real time data base of gun deaths (11+ / 0-)

    with a running tally of killed and wounded.

    This is just a hint of what could be.  The national scope of gun deaths needs to be public information in full detail.
    https://twitter.com/...

    Information is power and the NRA is keeping a lid on the carnage.

    If cats could blog, they wouldn't

    by crystal eyes on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 09:01:43 PM PST

    •  I was thinking something similar (9+ / 0-)

      Have a "gun violence" clock like the national debt clock we've all seen a million times.

      The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

      by LiberalLady on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 09:03:10 PM PST

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      •  A "gun violence" counter would be good (6+ / 0-)

        a lot of folks seem to be having this idea.  I noticed that HP is highlighting some of the incidents on their front page.

        What's most important is that we keep up the pressure on getting things done to address Violence

        Congressional elections have consequences!

        by Cordyc on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 09:17:36 PM PST

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        •  I agree - thanks for participating in the diary (3+ / 0-)
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          The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

          by LiberalLady on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 09:18:29 PM PST

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        •  Not just in absolute numbers, but as multiple of (1+ / 0-)
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          9/11 deaths (you know the most horrific even in modern history).  Every year we have near 4 times the death toll of 9/11 so we are approaching 50 times the death toll of 9/11 since that horrific date.  How many more are "reasonable" to convince "responsible" gun advocates to stop assisting with the carnage and start assisting with protecting the rights of Americans to, not just live, but live without constant fear?

          Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

          by DefendOurConstitution on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 05:42:31 AM PST

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      •  And we need to call out the Republican party... (3+ / 0-)

        for using the "slippery slope" theory.

        In this instance, (gun control as it relates to the 2nd Amendment) it's being used for specious justification for irrational reasoning.

        It can also be applied to any deliberation, discussion or debate, including the individual perspective of just about every amendment to the U.S. Constitution, and most aspects of societal life itself.

        Ultimately, using this literary device in any debate usually provides an excuse for inaction.

        A ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammo clips is exactly that -- a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammo clips It's not a ban on handguns, shotguns and rifles; nor is it a ban of ammunition. It's not a slippery slope or any other kind of slope, descent, decline or drop-off into federal governmental tyranny.

        It is what it is.

        The sooner both the NRA and congressional Republicans accept common sensibility and rational thought about the 2nd Amendment, and bring it into the 21st Century realm of practicability... the sooner we'll be able to prevent the next mass-killing carried out by a deeply disturbed, desensitized young man using a WMD. (weapon of mass death)

        Thanks for the diary.

        "That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history." ~ Aldous Huxley

        by markthshark on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 09:25:35 PM PST

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        •  Yes! And slippery slope can go both ways (5+ / 0-)

          Think about it. If we allow concealed weapons in schools and churches, we can allow them pretty much anywhere. Isn't that a slippery slope? If we allow "Stand Your Ground" laws that go beyond self-defense, why not let any citizen act as a vigilante? Another slippery slope. We have to point out that the slop has been slipping -- but in the direction of complete anarchy as it comes to guns.

          The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

          by LiberalLady on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 09:28:47 PM PST

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