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  •  it was not a wish list, it included what the GOP (0+ / 0-)

    GOP wanted, the chained social security, and what the Dems wanted, a tax cut for the middle class

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    by We Won on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 01:47:06 PM PST

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    •  The middle class doesn't need tax cuts. They're (3+ / 0-)

      massively undertaxed compared to just about every developed nation on Earth.

      The Middle Class needs services.  The Middle Class need to get something in return for their taxes.

      "Furthermore, if you think this would be the very very last cut ever if we let it happen, you are a very confused little rabbit." cai

      by JesseCW on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 02:17:15 PM PST

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      •  some countries provide more benefits with less (0+ / 0-)

        money

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        by We Won on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 02:39:54 PM PST

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        •  We pay staggeringly low taxes. (1+ / 0-)
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          While I have many issues with Clinton, his tax policies were in fact superior to George Bush's.

          We don't need Bush rates with minor tweaks.

          You don't jump start a stalled economy (and the real economy has been stalled for 5 years) with tax breaks.

          You do it with spending.

          "Furthermore, if you think this would be the very very last cut ever if we let it happen, you are a very confused little rabbit." cai

          by JesseCW on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 02:52:47 PM PST

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        •  To the equivalent of five people... (1+ / 0-)
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          Some countries also don't provide much benefit at all for their citizens because they have not invested in resources and infrastructure to serve their people.

          Anyway, whatever.

          If you are talking about Social Security that is an earned benefit that the government really has no logical or legal reason to downgrade because of deficit issues.  It is a completely separate fund.

          It would be like the US Federal Government deciding that they are going to reduce LLoyds of London's payouts for legitimate claims made by their insured customers in order to balance the US government's budget.

          It would be like me deciding that you - who I do not know from Adam - must take a pay cut so that I can buy a bigger car - even though the savings yielded on your pay cut won't actually pay for my bigger car.

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