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  •  Note: Democrats partly at fault. Really. (1+ / 0-)
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    Zooming out and looking at the big picture, something like this was bound to happen in any non-universal health system, especially one that seeks to offload costs onto employers.

    Why should the kind of medical care you get depend on your job, anyway?

    Why does the law allow a waitress working 31 hours a week to get employer healthcare, but not a waitress working 29 hours a week?

    As long as the law creates insiders and outsiders, there will be scrambling and fighting at the margins of those categories. When it comes to healthcare, we should all be insiders. The Democrats have missed a historic opportunity by not facing that truth.

    "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

    by HeyMikey on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:35:55 AM PST

    •  Yes but...... (0+ / 0-)

      Im the kind of progressive that actually believes markets work.

      In theory businesses that prevent employees from being able to get health care will eventually face higher costs than those that don't.

      1 - Better employees will migrate to better employers.
      2 - Better/more productive employees will help better companies grow while worse employees with reduce growth in bad companies.
      3 - Bad companies will have to hire more people to offset lack of productivity.
      4 - Companies with employee health care will have fewer sick employees.
      5 - Fewer sick employees reduces the need to overhire or over time (to account for sick time).
      6 - Companies that treat their employees well will have lower turnover reducing training and employee acquisition costs.

      It is theory in the large sense but one that has been proven out over time.

      It is well that war is so terrible -- lest we should grow too fond of it. Robert E. Lee

      by ksuwildkat on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 10:17:08 AM PST

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      •  "In the long run we're all dead"--Keynes (0+ / 0-)

        You're absolutely right, in the long run.

        The only thing that has to happen first is to find decent-paying jobs for all the several billion people who work for a couple dollars a day, or who would if they could find work.

        of the world’s five billion people over 15 years old, three billion said they worked or wanted to work, but there are only 1.2 billion full-time, formal jobs.
        http://www.nytimes.com/...

        Note: this makes me a hypocrite. I am willing to tolerate billions of people around the world being healthcare outsiders, even though I complain about some Americans being healthcare outsiders. One thing at a time????

        "The true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals." - Barack Obama

        by HeyMikey on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:35:26 PM PST

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