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  •  Few if any people here are unaware of the (5+ / 0-)

    consequences of going over the cliff, which for people like you really is a cliff and not a bump or curd, however some of us might believe it's worth risking and even doing. It's just that one, we believe that the consequences of not going over the cliff may be even worse, and two, only by going over the cliff are we likely to get a decent deal (that would therefore also reverse most of the cliff's worst consequences, making them short term at worst).

    "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

    by kovie on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 09:46:27 AM PST

    •  Certainly (8+ / 0-)

      And yet I also see another front-page column that is doing the cross-out-cliff-and-then-write-curb routine.  Perhaps I'm just being overly sensitive given my circumstances, but it's just too cute for my tastes.

      And as a matter of tactics, it seems like we don't want to suggest that what's going on right now is Much Ado About Nothing.  Were it me, I'd be emphasizing that this IS a cliff, that the Republicans have helped construct and now are intent to drive us over it.  Calling it a curb not only minimizes the consequences to me, but also the shocking irresponsibility of our Congress.

      •  It's not a cliff in the sense (1+ / 0-)
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        that few people will literally die or suffer massive and irreversible harm from it, which is what tends to happen when you fall off an actual cliff, as opposed to what might happen were we to agree to their hostage-taking demands, which WILL cause many people to die or suffer massive and irreversible harm.

        I realize that this must sound insensitive to the former, but I'm fairly certain that they're outnumbered by the latter, and it's a tradeoff, like any in politics.

        And btw, the cliff is likely to hurt me, personally. But I can't put my personal interests above those of many other peoples' worse off than me.

        "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

        by kovie on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 10:11:43 AM PST

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      •  Important to understand in breakdown (1+ / 0-)
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        Whenever any of the FP's do that, it's in response to the CNBC's and the Beltway/Manhattan centrist elite who really don't give a damn about unemployment insurance but instead give a damn only about their rich tax cuts going away.

        They also do that in full context of the issue, but I do think it's essential (and they will do that) to as include how the House Republicans and some sellout, centrist Dems really want the downtrodden to suffer or don't have the desire to defend for them.

      •  No, You are Not Being Overly Sensitive. (5+ / 0-)

        It's just that this site tends to get carried away with its memes sometimes.

        I miss Speaker Pelosi :^(

        by howarddream on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 11:18:54 AM PST

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