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  •  Nice strawman that I hear a lot. (1+ / 0-)
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    CA wildwoman

    That violent crime not involving guns doesn't bother us at all. This year a transsexual person was beaten nearly to death by hate criminals and a lesbian was beaten brutally by her SO's brother on Thanksgiving. You better believe that bothered the shit out of me.

    But there is absolutely nothing wrong with being bothered more by violent crime involving guns than other violent crime. That's because unlike with guns, with other types of violent crime you actually have a more than small chance of surviving it. Not so much when bullets blow through your body.

    Someone in a FB group I debate said "You only care about violence with guns because you have an agenda".

    You're damn right I have an agenda. That agenda is fewer deaths from violent crime.

    Yes we can address the propensity towards violence - all kinds of violence. That can include improving our mental health system, also include trying to reduce inequality, better education, etc.

    But first and foremost I want fewer people to die from gun violence. Australia figured it out. Japan figured it out. Just about all of the rest of the free world figured it out. What's our excuse?

    liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

    by RockyMtnLib on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 06:27:54 PM PST

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    •  there are limited resources (0+ / 0-)

      and right now none of them are going to mental health resources.  Crow all you like.  Ignoring the mentally ill will not make them go away.

      •  My comment says completely the opposite (0+ / 0-)

        of ignoring mental health issues. Step 1 is to put a tourniquet on the wound - i.e. address the access to assault weapons. Then while we're at it we can look at drilling down the mental health issues as well as other societal ills that can play a role in violent crime.

        But it's undeniable to me that easy access to these instruments turns a fire into a wildfire.

        liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

        by RockyMtnLib on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 09:22:31 PM PST

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