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  •  Research paranoid schizophrenia (1+ / 0-)
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    before you get too far into that position.

    Anders Behring and Jared Loughner. Martin Bryant. Hundreds of these armed attackers of groups of strangers.

    Hallucinations, voices, delusional world views that are often acquired externally. The last young kids you would want playing "Call of Duty" day after day in a cellar. Or getting hands on guns.

    Australia goes to great lengths to keep these patients well away from guns. That works. Has worked well for 16 years.

    "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

    by bontemps2012 on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 04:16:55 PM PST

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    •  Mental illness can play a role, but... (1+ / 0-)
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      Not all mental illness is like paranoid schizophrenia. And it's no guarantee that someone with those problems will commit violence.

      The problem with guns isn't so much about causing things. It's about making things more efficient. A Bushmaster with a 30 round clip is a hell of a lot more efficient than a flintlock.

      •  The direction is that paranoid schizophrenia (0+ / 0-)

        is the most likely cause leading to armed-attack mass murders.

        Other mental illnesses are much less likely to act as causes for such murders.

        Asperger's isn't even a mental illness. It is inversely correlated with violence of all types.

        We also need to consider that video games are going to operate differently on schizophrenics, generally, than on ordinary people.

        "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

        by bontemps2012 on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 09:06:49 AM PST

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    •  Fair enough. I overextended myself. (1+ / 0-)
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      Still, didn't they kill using guns?

      •  The intersection of paranoid schizophrenia (0+ / 0-)

        with modern guns is what matters, what deserves the priority.

        In England one of these patients named Tennyson Obih lost it and made a violent attack. He killed one police officer. He used a knife. In America he could have killed dozens.

        Thing is, what it takes to separate guns from the 50,000 American paranoid schizophrenics is nothing short of changing how we do guns.

        "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012

        by bontemps2012 on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 06:19:18 AM PST

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