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  •  It sounds like you're saying (6+ / 0-)

    'we better change it now, or repubs will change it worser down the road,' when we all know that repubs will always try to destroy social programs regardless of their political power.

    So, I don't see how doing what you recommend will stop the repub efforts as you seem to imply.

    Do we take our chances on 2014 and hope Dems retake the House?  Would we be guaranteed to hold the Senate?  Do we kick it to 2016 on the hope that we retain and/or expand power?  Is it better to revise SS with Dems in control of the White House and Senate, or do we wait and hope the GOP doesn't get back in power?  We see how well that wishful thinking has worked out for Boehner, who kicked the sequester can this far because he was just certain they'd have a GOP President right now.

    I think I can confidently predict, if BO and dems sell us out now, 2014 will be a route for the repubs.  So, no, we won't be taking any chances at all in 2014 if your recommendations are implemented.

    If BO and the dems would get off their butts and address the real problem, lack of jobs and lack of income growth for workers, then some of the revenue issues would be resolved.

    The banks have a stranglehold on the political process. Mike Whitney

    by dfarrah on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 10:59:18 AM PST

    •  were dems routed in 1983? (0+ / 0-)

      or is now just a totally different scene such that it would be guaranteed?  

      of course the GOP will never stop trying to destroy it; that is precisely why "fixing" it cannot be left up to them.  so the question is when is the best time, given that it won't be left alone?

      Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

      by Cedwyn on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 12:45:54 PM PST

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      •  Dems were routed in (1+ / 0-)
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        2010.  That routing was brought to us by BO and co.

        In 2012, BO got fewer votes than his first run partly because people now see him for what he is--a person who is only interested in himself.  And from what I've read recently about the election, he lost a huge chunk of independents that he originally had the first time around.

        If he had taken strong measures related to the economy, the banksters, and on and on, he most certainly would have kept his original votes, not lost the house, and creamed Romney.

        So, now he's selling us down the river again, and you're asking, 'when is the best time for this sellout?'

        We shouldn't be buying into [or promoting] the malarkey that the soc sec is in deep trouble, because it isn't.  

        The banks have a stranglehold on the political process. Mike Whitney

        by dfarrah on Mon Dec 24, 2012 at 08:38:08 AM PST

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