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  •  Reid's rant is all for show. (1+ / 0-)
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    The President isn't going to give anything up and Boehner isn't going to get anything through the GOP caucus.

    Might as well enjoy the holidays.

    LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

    by dinotrac on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 08:34:47 AM PST

    •  Spin Room time (10+ / 0-)

      Every Democratic Senator and Representative needs to be in front of a camera, on the radio, and out meeting constituents with a unified message - Democrats have a solution, but House  Republicans won't allow a vote on it.

      Boehner has already made it clear - the 2014 Election is underway.

      Filibuster reform now. No more Gentleman's agreements.

      by bear83 on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 08:39:04 AM PST

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    •  Risky for Reid (1+ / 0-)
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      While I enjoyed listening to his rant, the personal attacks on Boehner may come across as overly partisan and petty. Reid was almost gloating.  That's fine, but it's clear who is at fault in this mess -- and people in the middle may be fed up with the blame game.

      Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

      by winsock on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 09:03:24 AM PST

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      •  A real perception game going on, and Reid (1+ / 0-)
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        could blow it, though, honestly, I don't know exactly where that line is.

        Right now, I think Democrats are still on the good side of it and don't need to be seen as playing politics with the issue.

        The GOP has already handed them a big gift with their failure to pass Boehner's "Plan B".

        Democrats can and should stake the high ground. It works to their favor.  Too much Gloat Mode might serve to nudge them off.

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 09:06:31 AM PST

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      •  Risky??? (0+ / 0-)

        So he's gonna piss off the "independents?" I just don't think it matters much. Way better than hearing some Conservadem droning on about the deficit.  Keep punching Harry.

        Victory is sweet-November 6, 2012

        by al23 on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 09:53:06 AM PST

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        •  Nor for Reid, per se, but for Dems (0+ / 0-)

          and for the media narrative surrounding this mess.  The media will point back at whomever points a finger.  Boehner consistently blamed Obama, vociferously, for the failure to reach a deal.  How did this work out for Boehner?  It made him appear partisan and obstinate.  It's harmed the entire GOP.  Comparitavely, Obama took the high road -- and his favorables have risen.

          Kicking someone when they're already down generally does not play well.

          Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

          by winsock on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 10:15:55 AM PST

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      •  Reid needs to focus on expiring tax cut (1+ / 0-)
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        The media is reporting Reid's speech as a call to raise taxes on higher incomes. They are leaving out the part about taxes going up for everyone if nothing is done. Many low information voters are under the impression that nothing bad is in store for them and that this is just Democrats calling for taxing the rich. The Democrats, as usual, are loosing the messaging war.

    •  I disagree that it's "all for show." (4+ / 0-)

      I think he's doing a service, by reminding the public that the Democrats are at work, and the GOP are on vacation.  Reid is trying to break through a media fixated on "Congress is dysfunctional because both sides can't come to an agreement."
      Then, when there is no deal by January, the public will at least have been informed that the GOP refused to do the work they were hired--by us--to do.

      “If we, citizens, do not support our artists, then we sacrifice our imagination on the altar of crude reality and we end up believing in nothing and having worthless dreams.” ~ Yann Martel

      by SottoVoce on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 09:54:52 AM PST

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      •  Reasonable minds can disagree, but it's all (0+ / 0-)

        for show.

        There has been no movement until now and nobody's signaled that movement is likely to happen.

        Might as well go home and spend the holidays with family.

        In fact -- that might be, by far, the best service our legislators can provide.  Get out of that nasty little echo chamber inside the Beltway.  Maybe get an earful from some folks. "Son, I love you, but you're being an ass!"

        "Bro/Sis -- How can you do this to me, to your poor little nieces and nephews?"

        "I'm sorry, but your coffee's gonna cost twice as much now.  I call it the Joe's Diner coffee tax, and it's going to a good cause -- makin' sure people can still afford a cuppa after you yahoos screw everything up"

        LG: You know what? You got spunk. MR: Well, Yes... LG: I hate spunk!

        by dinotrac on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 10:01:57 AM PST

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