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  •  Thank you, friend. (2+ / 0-)
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    The Marti, HoundDog

    I myself had several amazing OBEs in my teenage years, and a few NDEs thereafter in situations of tremendous trauma and near-death.

    It is absolutely 100% certain that human consciousness extends beyond the brain.

    The brain does not create consciousness, as the materialists stupidly believe: it mediates and reduces consciousness, which comes from on high with too much power for most humans to withstand.

    Everybody knows this, who has ever looked into the subject.  A best example is Aldous Huxley's The Doors of Perception.

    However, I should say, although I 100% believe in God and the afterlife, I'm absolutely not ready to go yet!!

    •  Simply human, all too human conceit (4+ / 0-)
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      skohayes, tommymet, corvo, 84thProblem

      You have made of yourself something far grander than the rather mundane reality.

      Oh well, whatever gets you through the day. But please don't tell us that anything that depends on the subjective testimony of observers, many of whom are in no condition to make accurate observations, is "absolutely 100% certain." It isn't.

      "They smash your face in, and say you were always ugly." (Solzhenitsyn)

      by sagesource on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 11:27:51 PM PST

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    •  For what it's worth: (4+ / 0-)
      The brain does not create consciousness, as the materialists stupidly believe: it mediates and reduces consciousness, which comes from on high with too much power for most humans to withstand.

      Everybody knows this, who has ever looked into the subject.

      This is incorrect.  There's a debate in philosophical circles, but it's not a one-sided or even remotely settled debate.  David Chalmers is currently the best known anti-materialist in discussions of consciousness (he wrote a book on it), though he doesn't believe it comes from "on high", either.  In the materialist camp you'll find people like Michael Tye (with a book of his own), etc.

      None of these people are "stupid".

      Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

      by pico on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 01:47:24 AM PST

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      •  I believe Huxley's point (0+ / 0-)

        was that the brain acts like a filter of the massive stimuli going on all around us, rather than a sponge that takes it all in. Otherwise, we would be paralyzed into inaction; or so the premise goes.

        Whether all the stimuli come from on high, is another discussion.

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