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  •  Obama is a Moderate Republican (2+ / 0-)
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    This is just the latest example of Obama accepting "Moderate" Republican values as the the values he prefers. None of this would bother me that much if not for the fact that people claim that he is a liberal.

    •  There is no such thing (6+ / 0-)

      It's a different world, and Obama is a moderate Democrat.

      Jon Husted is a dick.

      by anastasia p on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 06:25:28 PM PST

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    •  Obama is actually a hard right Republican (0+ / 0-)

      He is to the right of Paul Ryan, Michelle Bachmann, and Allen West. That would not bother me, except for all the people claiming he's a moderate Republican.

      You never trust a millionaire/Quoting the sermon on the mount/I used to think I was not like them/But I'm beginning to have my doubts -- The Arcade Fire

      by tomjones on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 06:39:53 PM PST

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      •  Sorry, that's just BS. n/t (3+ / 0-)
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        "I have more than two prablems" - The Coach Z

        by AaronInSanDiego on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 07:06:46 PM PST

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      •  Actually... (2+ / 0-)
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        ...he's a double-secret super-duper hard right Republican, so far right he's to the right of John Birch, the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, and Genghis Khan.  He's so far right he's to the left of Jerry Garcia.

        "Nonsense!" said Alice, very loudly and decidedly, and the Queen was silent.

        by RIposte on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 07:19:10 PM PST

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      •  A hard-Right Republican would not (0+ / 0-)

        have said, on television, that he and his wife have no problem with same-sex marriage.  

        I can't think of one hard-Right Republican who would make a statement like that while in office.  Barry Goldwater came around in his twilight season, but most certainly did not mention it out on the campaign trail in the 60s.  

        Hagel has never said it.  His apology of recent days is correspondent to his wanting the DOD appointment and IMO does not represent a sea-change in his attitude toward social equality.  

        Hagel is more than a bit of an ideological throwback, IMO.  He also appears generally unwelcome in many political circles.  The hard-Right distrusts him.  Progressives distrust him even more.  

        I hope the President will choose someone else, most preferably a Democrat.  

        •  AuH2O (0+ / 0-)

          Good job to mention Goldwater in your comment.

          I'd gone to grab the Goldwater quotes to reply after reading the first two sentences of your comment. If I had read one more sentence, I'd have saved myself a search.

          Well, since I've done the search, I may as well give the link anyway...

          I agree with your sentiment regarding the Hagel apology. Hormel initially didn't think too much of it either. Whether or not he came to change his mind based on his own counsel or based on outside persuasion, I don't know. It is up to him whether or not he personally forgives Hagel. I'm not ready to do so until he accompanies it with actions rather than words. I don't think the test of this should come as Secretary of Defense.

          The plural of anecdote is not data.

          by Skipbidder on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 12:37:40 PM PST

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