Skip to main content

View Diary: Midday open thread (77 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  Just watched Django Unchained (5+ / 0-)

    excellent movie!  Spike Lee is jealous that he did not make this movie earlier.

    Samuel L Jackson's role as the evil house slave is unnervingly good.  He was channeling Clarence Thomas and Herman Cain

    •  I seriously doubt that. (1+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      aaraujo

      Spike Lee makes serious films about racism and his prior criticism of Tarantino’s orgy of N-words made the latter go ballistic. Since then, they haven't exactly been BFFs and looks like Spike has not so much interest in Django Unchained, and he may have a point.

      Personally, if I had to choose between directors, particularly on that subject, I'd probably chose Spike since he goes a bit deeper than exploiting issues.

      Tarantino’s an entertainer and amusing story teller, but let's not pretend he has much to offer in terms of serious social criticism.

      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 10:58:24 PM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  The n-word here is in context to the place & time (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        koNko

        this movie is emotionally appealing.  Like Inglorious Basterds it is a revenge fantasy

        •  I guess the criticism of Tarantino (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          aaraujo

          I tend to agree with is there seems to be so many of those moments in his films, regardless of subject or character, that you begin to wonder what he finds so attractive about it.

          But I guess when the creative juices start flowing, he can always find another amazing and insightful way for his characters, regardless of race, place or situation to find an appropriate moment. Like this random quote from Pulp Fiction:

          Vincent: Remember, I just got back from Amsterdam.
          Lance: Am I a nigger? Are we in Inglewood? No... You're in my home. White people who know the difference between good shit and bad shit, this is the house they come to. Now, my shit, I'll take the Pepsi challenge with that Amsterdam shit, any day of the fuckin' week.
          Well, sure, in context these lowlife dopers might talk like that, so maybe it's essential to character development and plot.

          And in defense of himself and Lee's criticism Tarantino had this to say:

          As a writer, I demand the right to write any character in the world that I want to write. I demand the right to be them, I demand the right to think them and I demand the right to tell the truth as I see they are, all right? And to say that I can't do that because I'm white, but the Hughes brothers can do that because they're black, that is racist. That is the heart of racism, all right. And I do not accept that ... That is how a segment of the black community that lives in Compton, lives in Inglewood, where Jackie Brown takes place, that lives in Carson, that is how they talk. I'm telling the truth. It would not be questioned if I was black, and I resent the question because I'm white. I have the right to tell the truth. I do not have the right to lie.
          Right. Got it, Quent, you're the victim. You have the right to say whatever you like - you demand it - but Spike Lee is out of bounds expressing his opinions.

          Of course, no one actually said he couldn't say these things because he's white or compared him to the Hughes brothers except hinmself, but, damnit, he demands the right to imagine and express whatever he likes, so there you go.

          LOL. And then he continued:

          In addition, Tarantino retaliated on The Howard Stern Show by stating Lee would have to "stand on a chair to kiss my ass."
          Well, I guess that settles it. Lee is a little midget that has to stand on a chair to kiss Quentin's ass. And what a BADASS it is.

          Personally, I'm all for self-expression and against censorship. If Quentin's reality is that half of his subjects spout 'nigga' 10 times a day, then he should express that as often as he likes.

          And if I paid 10 bucks to see his film I wouldn't expect anything different because it's so repetitive, it's obvious that's Tarantino's thing.

          Nigger. Nigga. As often and whenever possible, all in context.

          What about my Daughter's future?

          by koNko on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 07:40:37 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

        •  BTW ... (1+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          aaraujo

          You might find this blog post an interesting take on the film and the subject at hand.

          But again, I haven't seen it yet so it's all second hand to me.

          What about my Daughter's future?

          by koNko on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 07:50:24 AM PST

          [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site