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  •  The left isn't more polarized; it's not even left. (2+ / 0-)
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    marty marty, David54

    That's what's pure distilled Broderist bullshit here: the notion that the left is more polarized than it has been in the past. To the utter contrary, Congressional Dems are rightly notorious in recent years for bending over backwards to accommodate the lunatics on the right. "Thank you sir, may I please have another" comes to mind.

    After winning the election convincingly, the Democrats have finally taken that as a sign from the electorate that they should stop grabbing their ankles for the Republicans. That's not polarization; it's putting down the white flag for a change.

    The current Republican right is so far out on the lunatic fringe that the only way to 'compromise' with them is abject surrender. That doesn't fit any real world definition of compromise.

    No, both sides aren't equally at fault. Both sides aren't doing it.

    •  He did not say the Dems were more polarized, (0+ / 0-)

      he said the Congress was more polarized because the Repubs were more to the right and the Dems were more to the left than before. That is true.

      You can't scare me, I'm sticking to the Union - Woody Guthrie

      by sewaneepat on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 12:56:57 PM PST

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      •  On what planet are Dems more to the left? (1+ / 0-)
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        This is just plain absurd. Yes, the ranks of DINO/Blue Dogs were thinned considerably. But the House and Senate Democratic caucuses are not remotely leftist or liberal. They are well to the right of Richard Freaking Nixon on issues ranging from energy policy to privacy to civil rights.

      •  Dems are more Left than before when? (0+ / 0-)
      •  I have to agree with Ralphdog. There is virtually (0+ / 0-)

        no "left" anymore.
        "Right/left" is not really a good polarity to construct a discussion anymore.
        "Conservatives" are not really "conservative" anymore.
        They're radically, destructively regressive.
        The average moderate Dem is more "conservative" than what is labeled "conservative".

        Progressives today, and certainly good faith Dems, are interested in preserving a sustainable form of capitalism rather than the catastrophic institutionalizing of destructive, unfettered greed that Wall Street represents today.
        That isn't even "free market". It's totally dependent on corporate welfare, especially in the MIC sector, and petroleum based agriculture.
        Lest we forget, it's also socialism for the behemoth banks when they get in trouble.

        It's "polarized" when we simply say "enough" and quit bending over and taking it up the ass from Wall Street and the gop.

        In the past few years, there has been a slight tick to a more liberal/progressive stance among Dem office holders. But if you look back 40 years ago, there were actually liberal Republican Senators that were more liberal than the average Dem today.  

        You can't make this stuff up.

        by David54 on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 05:33:58 PM PST

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