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  •  Lots of folks shot over toy guns.... (11+ / 0-)

    so again, very unsafe.  People hold up businesses with toy guns all the time.  But statistically it is much more likely to be real, and responsible RK BA person carrying themselves would consider this person a threat unless they knew that.  The right to keep and bear realistic toy firearms is not protected.

    You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

    by murrayewv on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 12:02:42 AM PST

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    •  The RKB(fake plastic toy)A is not protected? (5+ / 0-)

      There has to be some flaw in this logic somewhere, yes?

      If supposedly RKBA is sacrosanct, then surely the RKB(fake plastic toy)A cannot be taken away either, because if it were, then every gun owner would have to prove his or her gun was actually a real gun, and not a plastic toy.   So this would require that every gun owner would have to register every gun as an actual real gun in order for it to be protected.    

      And if any gun were shown to be a fake toy plastic gun, then the government could seize that fake toy plastic gun.

      This results in an Reductio ad Absurdum situation.

      •  seriously no one asks they register the toys.... (1+ / 0-)
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        just make them illegal to sell.  Reducing toys will reduce cops shooting some kids and might make some more holdups with real weapons but I'll take the risk.

        I think failing to take the RKBA point of view seriously will not result in positive change.  I don't like guns and won't own one in the forseeable future.  But I am all for making some incremental changes or big changes.  Any changes.  The RKBA here represent a window into the opposition on this issue.  I believe they represent the 25% of Democrats who own guns and they also vote.  Do they only vote on one issue?  Maybe, but I bet they all don't.  And trust me, they know something about crafting a law with  fewer loopholes.  And lets be honest, some changes need to ocur on a state level, not just the federal level.

        The slaughter in the inner cities of this country due to gun violence could be addressed in ways that don't affect gun control.  Mental health issues could be addressed.  Background checks coud be integrated on existing systems.  There are dozens of recommended changes we can talk about, but if you are intent of changing nothing you can always reduce them to absurd arguments.   And arguing the absurd isn't worth my time.  So if the RKBA go to their absurd arguments I will reject those- after 8 years of reading them, I recognize them.

        You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

        by murrayewv on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 09:11:40 AM PST

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