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  •  I still like the eco-dictatorship idea (2+ / 0-)
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    Cassiodorus, A Siegel

    I volunteer myself for dictator and yes, my first act would probably be a bloody purge.

    Progress is an act of will; there's nothing natural or inevitable about it.  Dictatorships are premised on the superiority of will - an individual will claiming to channel a collective will - over process.  A more valid point would be to argue that any system is only as good as the people that make it up.  A weak form is the way that DC Villagers are always so obsessed about image, personality, and lifestyle; they believe that a "good" person will invariably be a good ruler, while a "bad" person will invariably be a bad ruler.

    I'll put my cynic hat on and argue that democracy in and of itself is no defense against stupidity, greed, apathy, or narcissism; we need only look at our own country to see that.  Visionary leadership - whether individual or collective - is also necessary; a perfect democracy composed entirely of people whose only real concern is paying the bills and having some fun afterwards isn't likely to be any more willing to deal with environmental issues.  Dealing with this issue will require shifting the population's priorities towards the future over the present, the ideal over the practical, and so on.

    To those who say the New Deal didn't work: WWII was also government spending

    by Visceral on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 03:40:24 PM PST

    •  Dealing with climate change is practical. (6+ / 0-)

      Believing in the ideals of capitalism so fervently that you ignore climate change isn't.

      "On the sidewalk the people are hustling and bustling/ They ain't got no time so they think on the thing/ That will fill in the space in between birth and death" -- Donovan Leitch

      by Cassiodorus on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 03:46:08 PM PST

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      •  I don't think regular people believe so fervently (1+ / 0-)
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        I'm trying to describe the tendency of regular people with little stake in capitalism also being either apathetic or hostile to dealing with climate change. How can they be stirred into action?  How do you appeal to their hope or fear for the future and all of humanity when here-and-now, bread-and-butter issues most dominate their thoughts?

        The elites are definitely a lost cause; they have nowhere to go but down ... and logically they'd be the first targets of the eco-dictator.

        To those who say the New Deal didn't work: WWII was also government spending

        by Visceral on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 03:53:17 PM PST

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