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  •  Um, No (4+ / 0-)
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    but they spoke of some entity that in their words might "deem it necessary." No one has responded to my repeatedly asserted point that no one uses that language to describe irrational actors.
    Actually, I was responding to your point. Evidently I wasn't clear enough.

    The whole point of such "intelligence" is to report an  accurate assessment of what the subject is saying. The report is characterizing the substance of what the subject said. It has nothing to do with an implied status.

    The fact that far right actors indulge in exactly this kind of pseudo-authoritative rhetoric buttresses the point. You have no way of knowing whether the language in question was the choice of the author of the report or drawn directly from the language used by the subject in question.

    Your assertion that "no one uses that language to describe irrational actors" is problematic on two points. The first being: what experience do you have in reading raw intelligence reports that would justify such an assertion? The second is: what defines an "irrational" actor?

    If I were going to speculate at all, I'd have to say it sounds like the sort of thing that might have been culled from a typical bull session in some extremist chat room and yes, such things do make their way into intelligence reports.

    Nothing human is alien to me.

    by WB Reeves on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 04:08:19 PM PST

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    •  it also 'might have been' from some private securi (0+ / 0-)

      firm or from a police agency, unknown...it might have been a lot of people, you're saying it might have been, while interesting observation does not eliminate or diminish the other actor's possibilities either.

      We need to know who exactly and to what determining factors is doing the dammed 'deeming' here.

      Otherwise, imagine the smirk on the FBI agent's face when he or she decided to not..wait..NOT redact that part.

      I would think that was a lot of fun for them maybe..cause the way it reads now IS domestic terrorism. By design...by somebody who 'deemed' it appropriate to NOT redact the assassination wording. And are you going to make the argument they couldn't possibly be aware of how terrorizing such wording could be?...cue my 11 yr old niece....'really?'

      This is the face of domestic terrorism, right here, this 'redacted' almost, document.

      This machine kills Fascists.

      by KenBee on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 01:38:09 AM PST

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      •  You've created elaborate scenario (0+ / 0-)

        out of essentially nothing.

        However, I've no quarrel with pushing for clarification of this or any other portion of these documents. I do not think indulging imaginative speculations based on misreading the documents is an effective means for achieving this.

        Nothing human is alien to me.

        by WB Reeves on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 03:13:53 AM PST

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        •   but your conclusion from nothing was perfect (0+ / 0-)

          at least it wasn't elaborate.
            There is hardly anything there to misread, your guess is as good as mine, your dismissive tone is unwarranted and unappreciated.

          This machine kills Fascists.

          by KenBee on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 04:38:46 AM PST

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          •  Sorry, I'm very tired and probably grumpy (0+ / 0-)

            I should be sleeping rather than responding. If you were offended by my tone, I can only apologize.

            My conclusion wasn't intended to be perfect. It was a speculation based on experience. Just my opinion, as I said.

            It wasn't speculation based on the imagined psychology of an imagined FBI Agent though.

            Nothing human is alien to me.

            by WB Reeves on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 06:24:26 AM PST

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