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  •  This sounds great, as long as it's not punitive. (0+ / 0-)

    If you make it through the year without any gun crimes attributed to your possession, you can pick any gun control supporter you like, and bill them for last year's premium.

    Otherwise, you're not wanting insurance, not really. You're just wanting to pretend it's insurance when it's really a fine even though the person hasn't committed a crime.

    And if the "premium" is paid to some big insurance company whose CEO donated a bunch of money to the Democratic Party, hey that's even better right?

    •  Troll. (2+ / 0-)

      If I had my way, you'd have no guns - and neither would anyone else. Then the human race might actually have to go back to civilization instead of the armed camp we have right now.

      You can call it a "fine." I call it the price you should pay for owning machinery that serves no purpose except to take life away from other living creatures, especially human beings, and occasionally as a manhood-reinforcing ego booster.

      "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." - Hubert Humphrey

      by Killer of Sacred Cows on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 06:45:58 PM PST

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      •  So your answer is... (1+ / 0-)
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        "La la fantasyland!"

        And yet I'm the troll?

        I have a non-fascist proposal for you: I keep the sorts of personal possessions that I would like to keep, you can do the same, and we can peacefully coexist.

        •  I refuse to agree to that. (2+ / 0-)

          Your personal possessions can kill me and my children. It is completely unacceptable that anyone should own things like that. I will not agree to any proposals that allow you to keep possession of more than two of them (and even then that's a concession I'm really pissed off that I have to make).

          That's not fantasyland, either. That's a better world - one that you should be more than happy to work towards. It's one where you don't need the guns because you don't have to worry that anyone else is going to try to kill you.

          "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." - Hubert Humphrey

          by Killer of Sacred Cows on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 07:00:00 PM PST

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          •  My personal possessions... (1+ / 0-)
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            Will never kill you or your children. Ever.

            I don't know what about that is so difficult to understand. You're suggesting that I should be allowed to amputate your hands because theoretically you might be able to strangle me with them.

            I don't expect you to budge. No rational argument could convince you, and I accept that.

            •  My hands were not designed with the sole purpose (0+ / 0-)

              and function of killing other human beings. Guns are. This argument you're using is called "False Equivalence." Look it up.

              There is no equivalence between my hands and your firearms. Don't pretend there is.

              "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." - Hubert Humphrey

              by Killer of Sacred Cows on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 09:15:00 PM PST

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              •  Guns were not designed with a sole purpose either (0+ / 0-)

                They have many purposes. Some guns, in fact, were designed to achieve peace. The designers attempted to create a weapon intimidating enough that the enemies (specific or hypothetical) would not attack, saving thousands or even millions of lives. These designers were successful too, in many places.

                The particular models are actually those most demonized by the progressive left.

                Of course, I don't expect you to accept obvious truths like this... it interferes with the narrative you've become accustomed to.

                If you'd like to discuss logical fallacies, I must insist that we first explore why you think the purposes of long dead men can somehow contaminate inanimate objects many decades later as if they were somehow demonically possessing the guns. Do you have an irrational streak that you harbor such superstitious beliefs?

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