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  •  I think that the US is just too big, and it has (16+ / 0-)

    become ungovernable. No one represents the people anymore. Congressional districts now include 700k people. It is no longer the people's house.

    •  Only way out is to increase the House membership (3+ / 0-)
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      should be one Rep per 30,000.

      That would make it about 10,000 today.

      Technology can make it happen.

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      by ROGNM on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 08:52:43 AM PST

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      •  Something more modest, perhaps (5+ / 0-)

        The House functioned just fine after Alaska and Hawai'i were added to the nation and set the current number of Representatives to 435 (voting) members. The population in 1960, the first election after they joined, was 180,000,000. That gave us one Representative for ~400,000 Americans. Bring that ratio back and we'd have 745 Representatives. However it still wouldn't be the "People's House" since it'll still be control by the monied interests. Be it 435 or 10,000 if they're controlled by the money in politics they won't help "We the People" any more than they do today.

        What's wrong with America? I'll tell you. Everything Romney said was pre-chewed wads of cud from Republicans from the last 30 years and yet he managed thru a combination of racism and selling the (false) hope of riches to get 47% of the national vote.

        by ontheleftcoast on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 08:59:18 AM PST

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        •  I've never really understood the house cap (1+ / 0-)
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          The Constitution specifically says how many people each representative should represent. How is it that we don't follow that rule without a Constitutional amendment?

          •  It only gives a minimum, not a maximum (1+ / 0-)
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            Basically it was to avoid a terrority becoming a state with only 5,000 people in it getting a full vote in the House. The current law reads

            After the first enumeration required by the first Article of the Constitution, there shall be one Representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which, the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall be not less than one hundred Representatives, nor less than one Representative for every forty thousand persons, until the number of Representatives shall amount to two hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than two hundred Representatives, nor more than one Representative for every fifty thousand persons.
            This means we must have at least 200 Representatives and at least 50,000 people represented by each. Which makes the earlier proposal of one per 30,000 impossible without Amendment.

            What's wrong with America? I'll tell you. Everything Romney said was pre-chewed wads of cud from Republicans from the last 30 years and yet he managed thru a combination of racism and selling the (false) hope of riches to get 47% of the national vote.

            by ontheleftcoast on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 10:42:49 AM PST

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      •  Or split the country into regions. n/t (0+ / 0-)

        "Michael Moore, who was filming a movie about corporate welfare called 'Capitalism: A Love Story,' sought and received incentives."

        by Bush Bites on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 09:01:15 AM PST

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    •  True & it was done on purpose (1+ / 0-)
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    •  That's because of Court Decisions Making Money (5+ / 0-)
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      speech, and permitting corporations to campaign, and because of media deregulation, much more than the size of the country.

      The tea party caucus is answering to billionaires who absolutely want this government to blow up. Anybody who balks at the billionaires will have a money bomb dropped on them next election and they'll lose their nomination.

      Neither the party nor the House leadership has as much influence on them, can't help them or hurt them as much, as the billionaires.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 09:55:00 AM PST

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      •  It's in process with their taking the nation from (3+ / 0-)
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        the state level to the federal.  Keep your efforts local because thats where the euthanasia of government is taking place while we've been looking at the nationals.

        Building a better America with activism, cooperation, ingenuity and snacks.

        by judyms9 on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 10:05:36 AM PST

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        •  As I posted above - It's power shifting (4+ / 0-)
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          What is happening right now is the removal of power from the federal government that has resulted from the collapse of the USSR.  There is no longer an existential threat outside the U.S. to justify letting the federal government have the power to draft soldiers, concern itself with their health, build interstate highways, control national corporations and banks, enforce civil rights laws, etc.

          The reason why there is such opposition to global warming is that global warming IS an external existential threat which will justify shifting power back to the Federal Government. Nothing else can deal with it.

          Only those [self-centered and greedy] conservatives currently fighting to claw back power from the feds recognize the problems they face if climate change is taken seriously and the government is given the power to deal with it. We are talking about people with all the willful blindness of Wall Street bankers who refuse to recognize their culpability in the creation of the Great Recession.

          The US Supreme Court has by its actions and rhetoric has ceased to be legitimate. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

          by Rick B on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 12:01:55 PM PST

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