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  •  Payroll tax holiday needs to end (5+ / 0-)
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    Armando, chuckvw, 3goldens, jj32, sidnora

    It's taking money out of social security with promises of replenishment from the general fund that may or may not materialize.

    Chuck Hagel for Defense Secretary

    by Paleo on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 01:37:04 PM PST

    •  I can argue either side (2+ / 0-)
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      TJ, sidnora

      Chained CPI is certainly too high a price to pay for it but it is stimulative.

      Hell, you know what needs to be in this deal? Sandy  relief.

      •  This (1+ / 0-)
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        You want a recession?  Then don't do any rebuilding.

      •  Really. (2+ / 0-)
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        Armando, ferg

        I take it as a measure of their madness that they are holding Sandy relief hostage. Or maybe they think they're sticking it to Christie somehow?

        "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

        by sidnora on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 03:00:46 PM PST

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    •  Ending payroll tax holiday will pull demand from.. (2+ / 0-)
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      ferg, Armando weak economy.

      I get what you're saying about SS, but the economic reality of ending the payroll tax cut is less money in the checks of the people who really make this economy go. I'd rather lose the cap and keep the 4.2% rate, but that's me.

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