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  •  No, it won't. That teenager will grab a rope or (0+ / 0-)

    a blade or find a bridge if they're serious.

    They'll grab a bottle of tylenol if they want to make a cry for help and survive.

    Statistically, getting rid of guns doesn't change suicide rates.  

    "Furthermore, if you think this would be the very very last cut ever if we let it happen, you are a very confused little rabbit." cai

    by JesseCW on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 07:35:12 AM PST

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    •  Or a really large bag of marshmallows or a pillow (0+ / 0-)

      and suffocate themselves, right?  All those you mention take a lot more effort and a lot more time, two things that teenagers' patience typically does not allow, but they sure would allow for re-thinking their impulse - even a few minutes may suffice to save some lives.

      Continuing to spew the NRA talking point that suicides don't count as they could never be stopped is very irresponsible of you.

      Then they came for me - and by that time there was nobody left to speak up.

      by DefendOurConstitution on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 07:46:25 AM PST

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      •  You know what the NRA does? They argue that (0+ / 0-)

        it's better to base your beliefs on your opinions than on neutral facts.

        Its followers argue that statistics don't matter, because they can think of all kinds of scenarios where a gun can protect them.  

        There's more than one group dedicated to making it impossible to have reality based discussions on the topic.

        "Furthermore, if you think this would be the very very last cut ever if we let it happen, you are a very confused little rabbit." cai

        by JesseCW on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 07:56:25 AM PST

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    •  People with serious intent (1+ / 0-)
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      To commit suicide will commit suicide.  

      That said, suicide attempts with weapons that are not a gun are often seen as "cries for help" because their success rate is not nearly the success rate of that with a gun.  

      Overdoses can be solved and people saved, slit wrists leave people time to get someone to a hospital.

      A gunshot to the head, however, isn't fixable.

      Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

      by Chris Reeves on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 09:57:22 AM PST

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