Skip to main content

View Diary: Updated 2: So they have a deal... (33 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  My experience over the years is that, yes, (1+ / 0-)
    Recommended by:
    remembrance

    when we hate a deal like this our counter parts tend to hate it as well. I don't hate the deal. If this was all there was to it then it wouldn't be all that bad an actual compromise.

    But that... let's do this dance again in two months when the R position is stronger and the D position is weaker... part has me not particularly happy.

    "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

    by Andrew C White on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 10:29:17 PM PST

    [ Parent ]

    •  Not sure we'll be weaker. (2+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      remembrance, pamelabrown

      Repubs conceded things that were very important to us, especially unemployment insurance. Moreover, there will be more and better Dems in both houses in the next Congress.

      •  Meaning to say that (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        unhhockey

        the tax increases being the default position meant we were negotiating from a position of great strength on that issue. That won't be there in 2 months. Instead the Boehner will be negotiating from a position of the White House needing him to pass a debt ceiling increase. That improves his hand and weakens Obama's no matter how hardball Obama plays it.

        And while we will definitely have a strong Senate and mildly stronger House Boehner will still be Speaker so it is not going to be strong enough.

        And UI is now done. We won that which is incredibly important but that will be old history in 2 months. As will tax rates be unless as someone said above a deal was struck about matching future cuts with revenues. If that is true then yes, we will be in a strong negotiating position... but I find it hard to believe at the moment that he managed to get that out of them.

        "Do what you can with what you have where you are." - Teddy Roosevelt

        by Andrew C White on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 11:03:53 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site